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This is one of those images that I personally like a lot but when I showed it to my friends they all gave it a thumbs down, but without being able to say why. Is it just too bland?

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Added by A former member
on Aug 8, 2010.
 

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  • Gail S.

    There are three distinct areas of this image. The top (sky) and the bottom (water) are similar in color and texture. The middle section holds more details, but gets a little lost in the sky/water tones. If the centre of interest is the white ship, then the image could be cropped to bring this out more. I like what Bonnie had to say about the emotions that we bring into our taking of the image, but which may get "lost" in its presentation to others.

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  • Russ K.

    Could it be that it's not bland enough? Like zooming out to make the little strip of something even less significant compared to the sky and water? Yes, this idea has been done, see Sze Tsung Leong's work - and some controversy over copying :-) ... http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-ca-photoplagiarism28-2010feb28,0,4200255.story cheers, Russ

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  • A former member

    Russ you were quite close to my original idea of isolating a thin strip between two rather homogenous fields, although I was limited by what was at either end as to how much I could zoom out. Gail you are right in that the feeling that it gave me may not transfer to others. Thanks for the feedback.

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  • Bruce I.

    Russ - that was an interesting article. It certainly feels to me, at times, that it is very difficult (actually impossible) to come up with an original idea or image that was not influenced by others. Andy - my suggestion is that if you were going for thin strip between two homogeneous fields, you might want to try to push this (in software, now; or in the future, through over exposure) into a "high-key" look to remove the texture in the water and sky. I think that would give it a more "isolated" feeling.

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  • A former member

    I regards to the article that Russ posted, it should be noted that neither of the two photographers came up with that look. It's been around for a considerable time, going all the way back to Gustave Le Gray in the mid 1800's, to name just one. Thanks for the input in to this image. It sounds like it doesn't have enough strength in any one particular direction. It'll have to remain a personal favourite :)

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  • Bonnie W

    I use two monitors at once, I have been lazy and not color-corrected one of them and happened to view your image on it. What I see there is much more interesting than when I switch it to the corrected screen. I see the water as more green and a sky that is darker and more grey, with clouds emphasized by their own shadows. Maybe this will give you some hints for improvement.

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  • A former member

    Bonnie, that's one of the problems of online posting since it's unlikely that my monitor/lighting is going to be the same as others. For what it's worth the sky on my monitor has a lot of detail with both dark and bright clouds and the water has a muddy green tone.

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  • Bonnie W

    Ahh! Right! My good monitor shows similar colors as are printed by Costco so I assume it is close to correct, but not necessarily so. It's a challenge for sure. By the way, Costco has given me a website & the model# of their printer so I can get its profile and calibrate my monitor exactly to what I will see printed. Maybe I am still way in the dark ages, but this info could help some people who are back here with me. Thanks for the input Andy.

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  • A former member

    Just to follow up, I'm looking at this on my monitor from work and the sky is almost completely featureless. I was on posting sites for quite a few years when they first came out and differences in monitors and room lighting accounted for many arguments on exposure settings. It's one of the pitfalls of online photography. From what I understand it doesn't really matter that much if you have profiles unless you are able to physically calibrate your monitor. The type of lighting you have in the room has to remain constant as well, but most people have a mix of sunshine, halogen, flourescence and tungsten, depending on the time of day.

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  • Bonnie W

    Andy, seems a shame, doesn't it, that you have worked to make a great photo and not everyone can see it the way you do. I little disheartening. How has technology come so far without being able to accurately reproduce what we see in person!!! Or maybe each person's eyes are like differing monitors too... a wild thought! Thanks for your helpful comments.

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  • A former member

    I agree with you Bonnie, although I'm used to the monitor problem now. My favourite way of looking at photos is in book form, so unless it was poorly printed then it's not a problem.

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  • Bonnie W

    Andy... time has passed and I am finally coming to terms with the monitor issue... my solution is to give up! I recently purchased a new monitor and it was different from my last one which I thought was so close to being right on! I now use London Drugs to print because they reproduce what's on my new monitor, and I'm happy. Thanks so much for your input on this progression in my photography education. Cheers!

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