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Re: [polish-121] The future of the Polish meetup of Washington

From: Mary Frances K.
Sent on: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 4:00 PM

Sven:

Thank you for your two cents. But I found another organizer.

No one wants to pay dues, and collecting it would be hard.

I don't want to go to Happy Hour, so let someon else organize.

I cannot even get a sponsor.

During the winter, I would not be hold any events anyway, since I don't like ice or packed snow.

So the best solution is to have someone else be in charge, and I will support the group by sponsoring some event.

Mary Frances


From: "Sven" <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, January 10,[masked]:48:21 PM
Subject: Re: [polish-121] The future of the Polish meetup of Washington

Folks,

I organize TWO other groups and have done so for over 3 years with one of them.  Yes, it costs money to do this.  Some people actually TRY to make money off of their members, charging $40 per meeting for mystical advice.  I cannot support that kind of BS behavior.

Do I lose money doing what I do?  YES.  it costs me about $144 annually to run my group re fees.  Oh, well.  It is MY cost for doing what I love to do..........Volleyball and Tantra studies.  Okay, so please quit pissing and moaning about how hard it is to shoulder the financial responsibility of running a group.  Either do it and man up or don't do and keep walking.  Step up or don't step up.

I took over the DC Volleyball Meetup 3 years ago.  It morphed into the MD/DC VB Meetup and now we are still going strong.  It was at about 200 members when I took over and we are now pushing 600 members.  There were only meetups on Mondays at Jelleff's B&Gs Club on S Street in Georgetown once a week.  Now we have 6 meetups Mondays thru Thursdays plus additional ones on weekends in warm weather both indoor and outdoor.  Do the members pony up a Buck a month??  Nope, they do not.  If they DID, I could rent a gym on Friday nights in Silver Spring and have three courts of VB every week of the year.  But such is NOT the case.  People are fundamentally lazy, selfish human beings.  They do things because they are easy or free or fun.  If it is a cultural event, it must needs be FUN.

OF all of the events that have been planned in this group in the last 4 months, few if any were inexpensive, fun or easy.  People will attend events that appeal to their own selfish interests.  How about a field trip to Baltimore to Polack Johnny's sausages, to Ostrowkis, to Corned Beef Row........all in the same day.  Top off this Saturday morning/early afternoon trip with a museum crawl of Polish art objects or a recital of Chopin's mazurkas............stretch it out and hit Blob's Park on the way back and have Bavarian alpenhof fare and polka dance your Dupa off.  Have a Wigilia celebration in some member's home who could accommodate a large group.  See a Polish jazz group playing music somewhere.  Cheer on the Polish Men's Volleyball team in the recent World Cup event in Japan at some partisan bar with good Polish beers.  While I AM a fan of Andrej Wajda and Agniezka Holland and other Polish film directors (Roman Polanski)  plus some Polish authors, Witold Gombrawicz and Jerzy Kosinski, many folks are not nearly so interested.  Although the White, Red, Blue trilogy with Julie Delpy was quite good and accessible.  If you make activities FUN, they will come out and participate.  If you select activities as stimulating as watching paint dry, NO ONE will show up.

That is my two cents.  Just remember that I have been running a group of VB fanatics now for some three years with NO end in sight.......with NO social events............all athletic activities.  With more monies in my pocket though, I will start scheduling HHs, parties and such in the coming months.  Thing is, when you HAVE a group and people WILL COMMIT to coming to an event, the Organizer can negotiate price breaks and freebies by virtue of being able to guarantee that 20 or 25 or 30 participants will be there and buy food, beer and such comestibles.  Something to consider when scheduling an event.  The Polish Happy Hours that were happening at the Rock Bottom Brewery went off quite well, I thought.  I attended two or more of those.  Cultural ONLY works when worked into the context of having a good time.  Even librarians like to eat, drink, get a buzz on and have a good time.

I figured out that if my 600 members ponied up $12 per year, that I could;

Rent a gym every Friday night of the year for 36-50 players,
Schedule at least ONE Happy Hour per month where all the food and beers were paid for out of the general fund,
Arrange some discounted rate on a group Adult VB Camp for as many members signed up.........

$7200 buys a whole lot, on an annual basis.
But if NO ONE is willing to kick in a dollar a month or less than 4 cents a day, then I can only do what I can afford.  So, I myself pay for my group's Meetup fees.  I suck it up.  I don't whine and I am not rich.  Do it and deal with it or don't do it.  That is all that there is to it.

One other item of interest;  Virtually NO ONE ever RSVPs to my events yet on a regular, weekly basis, at least 36 players show up at almost every venue that we use.  We currently use six locations.  We are looking to add two to three more each week, every week.

Good luck to whomsoever is willing to step forward to take on the mantle.  I am useful for generating ideas but since I have other groups to mother already, I CANNOT do so.  I will, however, participate in any Polish events that do not bore me to death.

Take care, to all.

Gene dobray...........Yak she mosh!  Pardon my phonetic Polish.

Steve B.

PS.  Ericka, I believe that the Polish Happy Hour USUALLY takes place in some bar in Arlington, Va.  Do a Google search and see, OK?  If you wish, I will try to help you find a way to get your Gawumpki or platski on......



From: Erika <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Sunday, January 8,[masked]:59 AM
Subject: Re: [polish-121] The future of the Polish meetup of Washington

1.  Is this meetup group the only Polish thing you belong to in the Washington metropolitan area? Yes
 
2.  Would you be willing to contribute $1 per year to keep this meetup group going?  Yes

3.  How many of you would be willing to contribute $3 per year to keep this meetup group going?  Yes

4.  What can this meetup group do for you that the Polish Global Village email announcement list on Yahoo! Groups and the Polish Global Village Happy Hour group on Facebook can't do for you?
I signed up for this group about a year ago.  My father was from Poland and now that he has passed away I would like to get more intouch with my Polish roots.  I spoke Polish when I was little, but do not remember it too well.  I would also like to learn to speak it.  I would like to attend some of the Meet up events, but I am in Northern VA... but I would like to make a better effort this year to attend a few meetings.


Erika Jarecki
[masked]
[address removed]

--- On Sat, 1/7/12, Marcin Zmudzki <[address removed]> wrote:

From: Marcin Zmudzki <[address removed]>
Subject: [polish-121] The future of the Polish meetup of Washington
To: [address removed]
Date: Saturday, January 7, 2012, 12:59 PM

Hello Polish Washingtonian Mitapers! :)

Great thanks to Mary Frances Kornak for holding up the torch of our Polish meetup group of Washington for so long!  I am particularly grateful for Mary's donation of organizer fees.

Let me pose the following questions, which should help us decide what to do next with this meetup group:

1.  Is this meetup group the only Polish thing you belong to in the Washington metropolitan area?  (Do not raise your hand if you belong to the Polish Global Village Happy Hour group on Facebook, if you are a subscriber of the Polish Global Village announcement list on Yahoo! Groups or if you belong to any local Polish organization such as Friends of the Polish Library in Washington, D.C.)

2.  Would you be willing to contribute $1 per year to keep this meetup group going?

3.  How many of you would be willing to contribute $3 per year to keep this meetup group going?

4.  What can this meetup group do for you that the Polish Global Village email announcement list on Yahoo! Groups and the Polish Global Village Happy Hour group on Facebook can't do for you?


My answers to the above questions are as follows:

1.  No.

2.  Yes.

3.  No.

4.  This meetup group could help attract attendees, participants, visitors, members and customers to various events, activities, groups and websites that I run, co-organize or support in the Polish community of the Washington metropolitan area.  Meetup is simply yet another way of attracting people who are interested in Polish language, culture and heritage.  It is possible that through this group I will meet a few interesting people as I think I already have.

What are your answers?  Your honest and personal responses will help determine the future of this meetup group, so please reply.  You can respond in English or Polish, whichever is easier for you.  Thanks from the mountain!  :-)

Best regards,
Marcin Zmudzki
http://polishwashington.com


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From: Mary Frances Kornak <[address removed]>
To: [address removed] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 6,[masked]:55 PM
Subject: [polish-121] No organizer after Jan 5


I am not renewing as organizer. So as of Jan 5 there will be no organizer of this particular group. I do not want to spend another $72 for another 6 months of organizing and no one attends.






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