February 5, 2010 6:00 PM - 26 attended
Religion without Belief - Reverend Father Tim Mansfield PhD
An admirable and dear friend of mine has kindly offered to enlighten us with one of the most interesting discussions our group has had yet!
Tim is an exceptionally intelligent and informed person in both theoretical and practical knowledge of science, religion, consciousness and the environment.
Here is a very brief summary of this discussion:
Much of our talk about religion involves belief. We ask questions like,
- what do people in that religion believe?
- do you believe in God or not?
Belief in a given metaphysical stance has been a core concern for every religions, but this kind of discourse can obscure other important concerns, notably how we are to treat each other and, crucially, what kinds of regular practise are thought necessary to be a legitimate member of a given religion?
Ken Wilber has worked to popularise the idea of a "post-metaphysical stance" which means for a religion, among other things, focusing on how that kind of spirituality is to be practised adequately, rather than on set of logical propositions which must be believed.
This approach points the way toward a more nuanced kind of religion beyond the simplistic cognitive tactics of belief (or non-belief).
Arrive 6pm for a 6.30pm start.
Food orders and drink orders before 6.30pm please.
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Miki Sommer+1 guestJess and I enjoyed listening to Tim. We thought he had interesting ideas, and it would have been good to be able to have a deeper discussion about what he had put forward. Unfortunately a few members had trouble understanding the subject, and that stopped any serious stimulation discussion to occur. After attending the climate change discussion and this discussion, it seems there are a few members who only attend so they can be heard, but are unwilling to actually listen and hear what others have to say. Overall, I was really happy at the chance to hear about Tim's passion, and I feel I could have had a very mentally stimulating discussion with him. Thankyou Karen for arranging this meetup.
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Kirstine BerthelsenInteresting stuff, the theory about religion, and how it relates to the science was inspiring. About the "belif" and the "faith" and how they themselves effect the human consciousness and creates systems in the society etc. I think Reverend Tim Mansfield is a very dynamic person, he deserves a good grade? However, in respond to the over all experience of "meeting" other people there, was not what I expected. Some arrangements / groupings for exchanging with other people could have been beneficial. Kirstine Berthelsen
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Thanks for your hospitality and for your tolerance. That was the first time I'd tried to talk about those ideas to a group. Unfortunately that meant it wasn't as focussed and pithy as I'd like and it all went a bit long. I hoped to only speak for a little and have a lot of time for interaction ? I apologise that the talking all went as long as it did.
You're a fascinating group of people. If I'm able to speak to you again, I promise to be more concise. I want to hear more of your thoughts!