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Re: RE:Re: [rawfood-191] confused

From: Martina H.
Sent on: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:54 AM
Hi All

It's been an interesting discussion so far, and I agree with Adam that in order to add minerals and trace elements to your body drinking an organic green juice daily is better than not having one. I have one every day but I'm aware that it's a bit like playing mineral roulette. 

The mineral content of all plants depends on the mineral content of the soil that grew and nourished them, and as consumers we don't have access to that information. Organic does not automatically equal higher mineral content.

The human body requires 103 nutrients daily: 72 minerals, 16 vitamins, 12 amino acids and 3 essential fatty acids. Given the quality of our soil and water it's almost impossible to take in all of these just through nutrition - unless you grow your own food, have your soil tested annually and feed it with natural fertilizers and through crop rotation.

Most of us need to supplement. Enter: rocks. Yes Danny, Adam, rocks. Zeolites, for example, are a family of volcanic rocks, either AL-NA or AL-CA silicates in composition.
And very good for you :)
Why are mineral waters so valued in European spas or "healing" waters in Spain? Because those are waters that have been filtered through rocks for thousands of years picking up soluble minerals on their journey. In Germany there are as many bottled mineral waters on the market as beers :)

Google "Hydroxydase", an exceptional mineral water found near Issoire in the department Puy-de- Dôme. Its mineral content has an incredibly high oxidoreduction potential which is, as far as I know, unparalleled on earth.
Or, if you still think the idea of re-mineralization through rocks is a joke, google a sexy subject called "Tribomechanically Activated Zeolites (TMAZs).

Those Alkaline Water Tubes do work but only one liter at a time. It's a baby step in the right direction. They don't purify, they simply re-mineralize. 
They cleared up my neighbour's eczema, that neighbour's 4 year old's food allergies, has reduced arthritis pain for one of my colleagues and was instrumental in my friend's weight loss. 
She was obese, always tired, hungry. As soon as she mineralized her system, getting her DNA/RNA synthesis back on track her body's cells became restructured to their healthy state, food cravings stopped, etc., etc. Yes, rocks can do that, it's science not magic.

I mentioned those tubes earlier because they are a shot at better health just like drinking fresh juice is with the exception that we know where the minerals come from: crushed rocks.
Go figure!
I don't sell these things, I have seen them work and thought I pass that on. It might benefit someone out there.

Cheers,
Martina

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From: Danny Dobrofsky <[address removed]>
Subject: Re: RE:Re: [rawfood-191] confused
To: [address removed]
Received: Wednesday, February 20, 2013, 11:02 PM


I'm with Tori!  Maybe add some resonably priced fiters too.
 
I checked out the Alkalizer water tubes.  What a joke!  Their claims are outragous and certainly not backed by anyone credible or anything remotely scientific.  
 
I put Alkalizers, structured water, Grander Systems and ionizers on the list of wishful thinking or supernatural based water systems!.
 
Do you believe in magic water filters?
 
I don't!
----- Original Message -----
From: tori
Sent: Wednesday, February 20,[masked]:36 PM
Subject: RE:Re: [rawfood-191] confused

Distilled water is pure water. Nothin else, RO is the next best in terms of purity. There is no way an alkalyzer - 2 plates vibrating can remove all the shit in our tap water! No way!! IMHO :)


-----Original Message-----
From: Marsha Lecour
Sent: Thu Feb 21 03:32:11 UTC 2013
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [rawfood-191] confused

I am not sure if this has been posted here all. I could not find it. Is distilled water better than ionized water? And if , so?

Thanks.

 
Marsha










From: Diane B <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:28:07 PM
Subject: Re: [rawfood-191] confused

I have a water distiller that is over 20 years old and has only been taken for 2 minor repairs.  It says Polar Bear Water Distillers on the side; who knows if they’re still around.  I enjoy the water very much.  It makes about 4L at a time.  I have been wondering for a while about a different solution because of something I read about how we have more pharmaceuticals in our water now and when they get heated up they are even more deadly.  Has anyone else heard this?  And do other filter systems deal with pharmaceuticals?



From: Carol <[address removed]>
Reply-To: <[address removed]>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb[masked]:21:10 -0500
To: <[address removed]>
Subject: Re: Re: [rawfood-191] confused

The one I have is from American Water Distillers.  It has phone number[masked] on the front.  I've had it for over 7 years and still works perfectly.  Yes it doesn't provide water on tap like reverse osmosis units but I've easily adapted.  I always keep a fresh cold pitcher in the fridge for drinking and use a pitcher of room temperature distilled water for sprouting, cooking etc.

From: tori <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20,[masked]:10:45 PM
Subject: RE:Re: [rawfood-191] confused

I am interested in a distiller, the counter ones seem to only make small quantities of water...what kind do u have? Brand?


-----Original Message-----
From: Carol
Sent: Thu Feb 21 03:08:02 UTC 2013
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [rawfood-191] confused

Hi Adam,
 
After much research I have also been convinced that distilled water is the best possible water for me.  I love its pure clean taste and wouldn't want to go back to drinking other water.  The small stainless steel distiller I have has a carbon filter in the outflow spout which catches any possible final traces of impurities in the water and I replace the filter every two months.  Virtually no water is wasted and I run it in off peak hours after 7pm or on the weekends.  I think that is a small price to pay for the purity distilled water provides.  Thanks.
 
Carol

From: Adam <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20,[masked]:13:46 PM
Subject: Re: [rawfood-191] confused

I completely agree with you Danny, it is a waste and is completely uncool, environmentally!

I personally like distilled water (even my kefir grains do!) but now I think I need to look into the amount of energy consumed by distilling water!!


Adam K


On[masked], at 1:17 PM, Danny Dobrofsky <[address removed]> wrote:

The water used by the reverse osmosis that goes down the drain remains in the cycle of evaporation.
 
The environmentally uncool part is that the wasted water was purified by City of Toronto which uses resources like electricity, labour, chemicals and sewage treatment before it's released into the lake/cycle of evaporation.  
 
I think that for the money, on treated Toronto water, a properly functioning reverse osmosis does a damn fine job of removing a lot crap from my water!
 
Danny
Owner
Eco-Logic Water Filters
 
----- Original Message -----
From: John <mailto:[address removed]>  
To: [address removed]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20,[masked]:53 PM
Subject: Re: [rawfood-191] confused

I'm curious about the "wasting" water part, does the water disappear from the earth or does it get put back in the cycle of evaporation, rain, repeat? Unless it disappears, I don't see how it is wasted or environmentally uncool.


From: Danny Dobrofsky <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20,[masked]:54:19 AM
Subject: Re: [rawfood-191] confused

Hey Guys!
 
I've been in the water filter business since 1985.
 
Being an atheist and skeptic I like to keep it simple.  If there's anything magical, sturctured, spiritual, research from Russia, lots of testimonials, no annual filter replacement and over a few hundred dollars..... I think it's questionable.  Clean water will remove some contaminants from your body but it's not going to change your life!   
 
You need carbon to get chlorine and organics, you need something to get out metals, maybe fluoride too.
 
Reverse osmosis does all this and removes 0.004mg/litre of minerals from the water.  This is not a significant amount of mineral, however, reverse osmosis does waste about 6 gallons for every gallon of water produced which is not very environmentally cool!   In the early 80's when reverse osmosis was developed for home drinking water, conservation was not an issue.....
 
There are fiters that remove chlorine, organics, metals and fluoride that don't waste water and are not expensive $140 - $400 installed.
 
I like to remove contaminants not add or reinvent water!
 
Danny
Owner
Eco-Logic Water Filters   
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Irena Vormittag <mailto:[address removed]>  
To: [address removed]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20,[masked]:36 AM
Subject: RE: [rawfood-191] confused

No, he invented the wholly water system, which the japanese took over and called ...Oh dear forgot...anyway...

From: [address removed]
To: [address removed]
Subject: RE: [rawfood-191] confused
Date: Tue, 19 Feb[masked]:28:26 -0500

Was Louis his name? Tha plumber who died?

 
From: [address removed]
To: [address removed]
Subject: [rawfood-191] confused
Date: Tue, 19 Feb[masked]:11:56 -0500

My filter for water called wholly water ended its 5 yr life span, and the man who was selling it died...ye gads...the people who took over changed it and are charging double

So??? there is so much controversy as to water filters.   Brian Clements has been on distilled water for 20 yrs.  
Reverse osmosis is suppose to be bad  as is distilled as it takes minerals out of body

There is a Birkey system???  There is pro and cons for everything.....Who does one listen to???

HELP>....I feel so confused...???  What do I get???  Irena




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