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Re: [rlccef] DO NOT BE TEA -O- CONNED

From: Roger G.
Sent on: Friday, September 30, 2011 7:30 PM
Michael,
I suspect we could find fault with ANY candidate. I will likely lean toward the candidate that supports the issues that mean the most to me. I don't believe I will find any candidate that thinks exactly the way I do, unless I make a run for the White house myself. That being said, I will cross a candidate OFF my list of potential candidates if he is not strong on the issue(s) that mean the most to me. Ron Paul has this notion that we should permit Iran to develop nuclear technology as it choses. I feel strongly against that, so I feel strongly that Ron Paul is NOT the right choice. Herman cain on the other hand has said he would like to see English as the official language of the USA - I feel the same way. He wants to seal the borders and deny privileges to illegal ALIENS - So do I.

In short, I'm sure that there is plenty that folks will say against Cain, but for the issues that I feel most strongly about, he seems to feel the same way I do. At this point in the process, I like Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich.

I think that Perry and Romney, for some reason, seem to think the race is just between the two of them. Perry is weak on immigration and passed the "Halal" law in Texas, which puts Shariah law onto a level of acceptance. Romney has that health care link to Obamacare.

So far, It's Cain and Gingrich, although both may have issues of their own, nobody's perfect….. Other than YOU and I, of course!
So Says,
The BOJWON



On Sep 30, 2011, at 7:07 PM, M wrote:

"Convince me your candidate is better, not that my candidate is flawed."

THAT is the quote of the year.

"That fact that Herman Cain does not want to eliminate ANY federal program really bothers me."

-That isn't true:

"Cain says he would balance the budget by refusing to take any types of spending cuts off the table. "Every federal agency, every government program and expenditure must be reviewed and revised with a keen eye and a red pen," his Web site says. It also highlights his experience as a businessman, saying that he made "difficult decisions" to cut company costs during hard times. "Though it might not be politically popular to modernize and eliminate some of our entitlement programs, responsible leaders should be willing to do it all the same," his Web site says. "They must be prepared to make tough choices and learn to simply say 'no.' "

Also:

"Entitlement programs like Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid should be eliminated so that "states, cities, churches, charities and businesses" can take over the task of helping the elderly, poor and disabled. Federal programs are inherently problematic because they create a sense of entitlement to government support and give people an incentive to be dependent. Welfare takes away individuals' freedom and independence, but eliminating entitlement programs would empower people. "



Michael Joseph
Founder/Director
Staff of Life Nutrition Consulting Inc.



On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Scott Ellis <[address removed]> wrote:

Newt squandered THE opportunity of our lifetime to force the federal budget into balance in 1995.  He folded in the GOP cards I believe due to having the Democratic Sword of Damocles hanging over his head – a married man having an affair with a staffer on the government payroll.   Rather than do the right thing and then fall on his sword, he chose to ‘save’ his position at the cost to the nation.  How could we expect him as President to make the necessary cuts now with the Federal freight train even more out of control, not knowing what other things he may have where he’d again fold a winning hand for personal gain?

 

From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Richard DeSimone
Sent: Friday, September 30,[masked]:25 AM
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [rlccef] DO NOT BE TEA -O- CONNED

 

Would Newt be better than BHO?  Yes
Would Paul be better than BHO?  Also yes.
Would I vote for either rather than BHO?  Big yes.
Are Newt and Ron different?  Yes again.
Let us see who is nominated, and support him or her.
Convince me your candidate is better, not that my candidate is flawed.
It is too soon to get tightly wrapped around the axle.
Just thinkin'
Rich D. <image001.gif>
 
 
 
 
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From: Peter Fusscas
Date: 9/30/[masked]:13:36 AM
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [rlccef] DO NOT BE TEA -O- CONNED
 
John
 I have known Newt personally for over 30 Years. During that time he has, like all of us, made some mistakes. However, he has been and is now a committed conservative.
By far he is the most knowledgeable, experienced, and able man in the race.
Ron Paul is as pure a libertarian as they come with great domestic policies. His foreign policy, however, reminds me of Nevil Chamberlain. And we know where that got us?
The profile of Newt does him a disservice after 45 years of public service. He has earned more respect than that.
Newt's singular strength is his ability to think outside the box on a wide variety of subjects.
Peter

On 9/30/[masked]:01 AM, John Perna wrote:
 
I just discovered your web site today & I am appalled you are promoting someone like Newt on your website. An immoral member of the Council on Foreign Relations. That is number one.
 
Number two, I do not see a SINGLE mention of Ron Paul on your web site. Who started the Tea Party movement? Do you guys even have a clue? Apparently NOT.
 
Number three: Herman Cain? A former head of the KC FED? Are you kidding me? He gives LIP service to Tea Party ideals ONLY.
 
As far as I can tell you guys are trying to usurp this movement. You hire former Bush administration people? All I can say is the actual truth here. You guys are political whores. And I would really like to see someone from your website to try and prove other wise.
 
My lord....
 
Newt Gingrich's New Strategy: Become Ron Paul
 
 

NOW NEWT SAYS WHATEVER RON PAUL SAYS.
ALL THAT HE HAS TO DO NOW IS FIGURE OUT HOW TO MANUFACTURE A 30 YEAR LONG VOTING RECORD THAT AGREES WITH THE WAY HE IS TRYING TO SOUND.
 
It has been said that imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. In politics it is called being a spoiler. The shill is just there to divide voters.
 
The Real Newt Gingrich (complete film) [VIDEO]
 
Attention all "conservatives," Tea Partiers, and RINOs: if you think Newt Gingrich is truly a "conservative" Republican in the traditional sense of Constitution-based, limited government and interested in maintaining American sovereignty - think again! This video shows just who Newt Gingrich really is in his own words, actions and voting records.
 
WATCH VIDEO:
 
 
   
OR the same video at:
 
The Real Newt Gingrich
http://www.vimeo.com/6445068
 
OR the same video at:
 
 
Newt was very important in helping pass NAFTA & GATT, which sent millions of jobs overseas.  He has supported one world government organizations consistently, and belongs to some of the most committed organizations to one world government.
 
Even the left has some good information on Newt too:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#[masked]
 
This is not an endorsement of the rest of what Rachel Maddow says.
 
Who started the NEW Tea Party Movement?
The picture that is below is from the 2008 presidential campaign.
 
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On December 16th, 2007; the anniversary of  Boston Tea Party, Americans "dumped the tea" again by donating over $6.04 Million into the Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign. This was largest one day political donation ever!
 
Ron Paul: Tea Party 07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKZmIzEMUN8
Tea Party Started In 2007 And Ron Paul Is The Godfather
 
 
 
visit:
 
 
What would Patrick Henry say today?
 
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Read this in the original form. Then read this again, and change a few words:                  
 
Change "British ministry" to "federal government".
Change "kings" to "tyrants".
Change "Great Britain"  to "Washington".
Change "ministry and Parliament" to "federal government".
Change "throne" to "federal government". 
Change "British guard" to "federal officer".
Change "Boston" to "Waco and Ruby Ridge".
 
Here is AN UPDATE to what Patrick Henry said on March 23, 1775:
 
Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.
 
I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the Federal government for the last ten years to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves and the House. Is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received? Trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with those warlike preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled that force must be called in to win back our love? Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which tyrants resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? Has the Federal government any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies? No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us: they can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the Federal government have been so long forging. And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the federal government, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the Federal government. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the Federal government! In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free-- if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending--if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained--we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of hosts is all that is left us!
 
They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a soldier shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard at Waco, Ruby Ridge and Guantanamo! The war is inevitable--and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.
 
It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
 
 
The 5000 Year Leap (Original Authorized Edition) [Paperback]
 
W. Cleon Skousen
 
 
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0880801484?ie=UTF8&seller=A1AVPSERX4QF0E&sn=jperna12
Other source material on the ideas of the founders of the American republic:
We Hold These Truths: A Reverent Review of the U. S. Constitution 1993 Revised Edition (Paperback)
by Congressman Lawrence P. McDonald
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001EEF7JK?ie=UTF8&seller=A1AVPSERX4QF0E&sn=jperna12 
 
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We Hold These Truths: A Reverent Review of the U. S. Constitution by Congressman Lawrence P. McDonald 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001TZENA8?ie=UTF8&seller=A1AVPSERX4QF0E&sn=jperna12
 
Constitutional Journal: A Correspondent's Report from the Convention of 1787 by Jeffrey St. John
Foreword by Supreme Court Justice Warren E. Burger  Hardcover
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0915463423?ie=UTF8&seller=A1AVPSERX4QF0E&sn=jperna12
 
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In Their Own Words (Paperback)  Various quotations from the founders
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001EIIQJO?ie=UTF8&seller=A1AVPSERX4QF0E&sn=jperna12
 
Who will protect us from our Protectors?
 
The "Police State" Special Edition Issue of The New American magazine. (Fall/Winter 1994)
http://americanistbookstore.com/books/police-state-edition-the-new-american-magazine/
 
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The cover shows an ATF agent, in camouflage, and carrying an assault rifle. He is wearing sun glasses, and has a piece of tape over his badge number.
 
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