RE: [rlccef] Is It Just Me?

From: Robert D. W.
Sent on: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 9:51 AM
FOLKS! IF HE READ THIS DO YOU REALIZE HOW HAPPY oBAMA WOULD BE.Lets remember the goal is to beat him above all. No the parties are not of and for the people any more the serve the ruling class the politicians they are of and for them..  But as has been shown we the people if we work together can defeat them too. Remember we the people working together for our nation and Constitution are to win or die as a people they van't defeat us BUT WE CAN.

TOGETHER in liberty
Robert D White
 

Subject: Re: [rlccef] Is It Just Me?
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Date: Tue, 21 Aug[masked]:39:52 -0400

Somehow I missed the news on Ron Paul's withdrawal as a candidate for the Republican nomination Len.

Again folks, are we operating within the rules or with a mob mentality.  I am getting concerned that I am going to have to cave and purchase a copy of Arguing with Idiots.  Can someone tell me who wrote that book?  But wait a minute, maybe I do not want to read it if the author was an atheist, or a Ron Paul fan, or a Democrat, . . .?  I digress.

:)

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Len Lemmer <[address removed]> wrote:
The Ron Paul candidacy is over. If you want to begin a Ron Paul 2016 campaign, have at it. I hope that we still have elections in four years.
On Aug 21,[masked]:17 AM, "Frank Zilaitis" <[address removed]> wrote:
Thank you Pat for sharing your perspective.

First and foremost, your comment about shouting from the sidelines is a bit harsh considering my track record with the Republican Party I chose to join in 2009 after having had no party affiliation for my entire life.  But I will get over your insult if that's what you meant it to be.

I am also really tired of folks ignorantly labeling me a Ron Paul fan.  Over the past two or three years, thanks to intellectuals like Scott Ellis and Matt Nye, I have learned that I am an Objectivist.  If you read any of my campaign materials for state committeeman, you would not have leveled yet another insult.

From an Objectivist point of view, it is irrational (not to mention disrespectful) to ignore laws (constitutions, statutes, rules and regulations, ordinances, etc.), if we are indeed are a government of laws and not of men.  The mob mentality I see in these threads is absolutely appalling.  It is even more alarming to see the rationalizing of Romney/Ryan that folks are doing given the circumstances.  Interestingly enough, if you read the Ron Paul Plan and compared to Romney's or Ryan's plans, you would see that we get a balanced budget inside of a presidential term.  Not in 2030 or 2040.  So, from a logic and reason perspective, I do propose that, since Ron Paul is the only candidate left in the Republican Party with the plan that is opposite of President Obama's and Romney/Ryan's plans, it is indeed time to make one last sanity check Pat.  Otherwise, I, personally, am content to see President Obama taking full responsibility for imploding the federal government from a fiscal perspective and doing it quickly.  I do not want a rationalist Republican in the big chair in 2013 and then see the Republican Party get destroyed over a longer term.

The movie I have seen was 2008 starring John McCain and Sarah Palin.  The ending was real bad for Republicans, because they failed to walk the walk in the land of principles.  I joined the Republican Party in  2009, because I still believed it was possible to work within the Party to bring about the change I wanted to see and the change I thought folks who are members of the Tea Party, 9-12, Space Coast Patriots and other groups wanted to see.  Perhaps I am mistaken?

President Obama is possibly the most principled politician of all time. (I am wearing my flak jacket today. :))  He appears to be a collectivist and is using every ounce of his energy to make sure the United States of America continues down that path toward communism.  Amazingly, Speaker John Boehner lead the charge in the most recent raising of the debt ceiling last summer.  At this moment, I am reminded of the title of a book former Chrysler Chairman Lee Iacoca wrote years ago?  Where have all the leaders gone?

Can anyone join me in reality?  Or should we just continue to watch movies until the U.S. Government fiscally implodes?

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 5:26 AM, Pat Pasley <[address removed]> wrote:
Frank,
There is no doubt that you have always been a Ron Paul supporter and I admire your loyalty to him.

But, this country went through an election were the majority of people voted for Romney.  There were
some other very good candidates, but they also were rejected.  What I did notice was that Ron Paul always had
the least amount of votes with I think the exception of one state.

I am very curious as to what you propose we should do.  Should we reject Romney/Ryan and demand that
Ron Paul be the candidate?  Do you really believe at this late date that Ron Paul would be elected President? 

This country is at the brink of going under.  If you have seen the movie 2016, you understand that Obama was
just getting started in his first term.  He will finish the job of destroying us if he is re-elected.

Many of us are coming off a primary election that was exhausting work.  But the November election
is right around the corner and we understand what is at stake.  What we need are more supporters
that will roll up their sleeves and join us....not just shout from the sidelines.    We could use your energy
in helping us. 

We are working hard to save this country not only for ourselves but for you and your family as well.

Pat






On 8/20/[masked]:36 PM, Frank Zilaitis wrote:
Is it just me or is anyone else concerned that Republican state parties are spending money on Mitt Romney's campaign before we have formally nominated him?

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-08-20/romney-raised-40-million-last-month-for-presidential-run 

Or is it time to ignore our own party rules, shut up and support the presumptive nominee?
Frank Zilaitis




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