Re: [ronpaul-93] FDA bans natural vitamin B6 but allows GMO's & fluoridation

From: Mike B.
Sent on: Friday, October 5, 2012 10:27 AM
Requiring "seat belts" is defensive????? Requiring insurance is 
defensive? Requiring licenses of all kinds is defensive?

Mike


At 10:19 AM 10/5/2012, you wrote:


>"Requiring disclosure IS defensive."
>
>That about sums it up.
>
>Also,
>
>I have been watching the chemtrails for the last two days. Oh, for 
>anyone who thinks that chemtrails are BS, check this out.
>
>http://news.yahoo...­
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>Yeah, the government and military would never spray anything in our 
>skies, right?
>
>Here is a nice comparison of a contrail and chem trail side by side,
>
>http://www.youtub...­
>
>http://www.youtub...­
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>http://www.youtub...­
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>
>From: Rosemary Kaplar <[address removed]>
>To: [address removed]
>Sent: Thursday, October 4,[masked]:57 AM
>Subject: Re: [ronpaul-93] FDA bans natural vitamin B6 but allows 
>GMO's & fluoridation
>
>I'm voting YES too on Prop. 37. Had we known the stuff was in the 
>corn my father wouldn't have eaten Corn Flakes every day for  years 
>only to have cancer and other health issues. The stuff in the milk 
>he drank from the cows they gave shots to in order to produce more 
>milk probably killed him too.
>
>Food today is NOT packaged like they did 10+ years ago. Crops are 
>NOT grown the same with all the chemicals and pesticides. Sure if 
>you eat it once or twice every month maybe no big deal but the older 
>generation just eat plain foods and THIS plain, unlabeled processed 
>food can KILL! I want to know if it is real or created in a lab. 
>Then its MY choice to buy or not. If the gov't says its "safe" I 
>believe the opposite!
>
>FYI did you notice in the sky Chemtrails today in east county?
>From: david <[address removed]>
>To: [address removed]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 3,[masked]:34 PM
>Subject: Re: [ronpaul-93] FDA bans natural vitamin B6 but allows 
>GMO's & fluoridation
>
>GMO foods are an attack on everyone. GMO foods have been proven to 
>cause tumors, cancers, etc..... and with that being the case, I 
>would consider the labeling requirement a law a law that is 
>"defensive in nature". I should at least be warned that I am eating 
>poison when I crack open a box of Frosted Flakes. Should we not have 
>the liberty to decide our own health? How is our liberty not 
>protected then when we can be poisoned and not warned in advance? I 
>see nothing wrong with transparency and full disclosure. I want the 
>liberty to decide whether I eat good food or bad food but how can I 
>tell the difference if the person selling the food is not honest 
>about what is inside it?
>
>Correct me if I am wrong, this new law will require foods containing 
>GMO's to be labeled. It mandates nothing of the opposite.
>
>If the small farmer does not purchase GMO seeds then why would 
>anyone bother coming up with an idea to mandate a label that says 
>so. That is not what this proposition is about.
>
>I am voting Yes on Prop 37 and below is an example why,
>
>It's the same shit, just a different decade
>
>http://www.youtub...­
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>http://www.youtub...­
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>
>
>
>From: Mike Benoit <[address removed]>
>To: [address removed]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 3,[masked]:50 AM
>Subject: Re: [ronpaul-93] FDA bans natural vitamin B6 but allows 
>GMO's & fluoridation
>
>"What, then, is law? It is the collective organization of the 
>individual right to lawful defense" Laws are bad when they are a 
>perversion of the definition above. We have a right to defend our 
>rights with deadly force if need be and that right can be delegated 
>as a power to government for the common application of this 
>responsive force. Laws against murder, robbery, and rape are 
>defensive in nature (they. They are not mandates (forcing people to 
>do something). Forcing people or companies to label their products 
>are a perversion, of law. You don't protect rights by violating 
>rights. You have the right to buy or not buy any product that is out 
>there. By claiming that people can force other people to do things 
>against their will is a support for tyranny. What is tyranny? It is 
>the taking control of something without the right to do so.
>
>We can delegate to government only that which we have a right to do ourselves.
>
>Now since some people are ready to take away liberty and property 
>rights from other people I only hope they realize their own 
>inconsistency and do not complain when others do it to them.
>
>Of course we know that when you give up liberty for security you end 
>up with neither. Laws like this hurt the little guys and justify 
>government making it illegal to sell from your own garden. After all 
>you don't have the label on. Special interest groups get waivers. 
>Sometimes seed can travel in the wind and land on a farm where the 
>farmer only planted heirloom seed yet some GMO seed made its way 
>into his farm. So the products he produces and you eat have some gmo 
>by accident.
>
>Who shall police this new perversion of law? Who will get caught in 
>the net? Will you be making sure all the restaurants only use non 
>GMO or do you want the State that you are expanding to do that?
>
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>At 11:10 AM 10/3/2012, you wrote:
> > In reference to the "libertarian" point of view... since when are 
> all laws bad? Why would requiring a company to disclose ingredients 
> to the consumer not allow for more choice, more competition and 
> more integrity to commerce? From the "libertarian" point of view I 
> would think this is a home run.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Leigh Skinner <<mailto:[addr­ess removed]>[address­ removed]>
> > To: <mailto:[address removed]>[address­ removed]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 3,[masked]:19 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ronpaul-93] FDA bans natural vitamin B6 but allows 
> GMO's & fluoridation
> >
> > Snewbegin:
> >
> > There are other mandates that save lives, like laws against 
> murder and robbery.  No mandates is anarchy.  Is that what you're after?
> >
> > But aside from that, people are dying from the FDA's actions, or 
> rather inaction because of big corporations and congressional 
> shortcomings.  In the meantime a non-government sponsored 
> initiative, Prop 37, is on the ballot to try and contend with the 
> FDA until it hopefully goes away someday.  I don't expect the 
> government to enforce it, but it will give people like me the tools 
> to sue if I am ever hurt by a manufacturer's unlisted GMO 
> ingredients (if they are a significant percentage) and I can prove it.
> >
> > You, of course, are free to vote against it.  But someday the 
> government will hit too close to home for you, and perhaps then you 
> will understand that a narrow set of mandates does not take away 
> your liberty.  And I notice that you haven't explained how labeling 
> takes away your liberty?  Seems to me that it helps to inform us, 
> and an informed citizenry is what will eventually set us 
> free.  That is one of the main points of Audit the Fed, because 
> when everyone learns what they are doing to this country, they will 
> rebel and End the Fed.  In a similar way, when the population sees 
> how much GMO's have taken over our food, both packaged and fresh, 
> they will not be pleased.  Right now I argue with uninformed people 
> about GMO's because they don't realize how prevalent they are.
> >
> > And as for Libertarian thought, I agree with much of it, but I 
> believe there can occasionally be exceptions in extraordinary times.
> >
> >
> >
> > Leigh
> > It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, 
> tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the 
> minds of men. Samuel Adams
> > Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors 
> to live at the expense of everybody else. Frederic Bastiat
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "<mailto:[address­ removed]>[address­ removed]" 
> <<mailto:[addr­ess removed]>[address­ removed]>
> > To: <mailto:[address removed]>[address­ removed]
> > Cc: Leigh Skinner <<mailto:[addr­ess removed]>[address­ removed]>
> > Sent: Tue, October 2,[masked]:06:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ronpaul-93] FDA bans natural vitamin B6 but allows 
> GMO's & fluoridation
> >
> >
> > ---- Leigh Skinner 
> <<mailto:[addr­ess removed]><mail­to:[address removed]>[address­ removed]> wrote:
> > Leigh, from a libertarian point of view the FDA should not exist. 
> Actually, it is the libertarians
> > educating people on its principles that will make it not a fringe party.
> > I understand your passion but someone else has a passion somewhere else
> > that is requiring the government with its legalized violence to 
> carry out its
> > mandates. You need to read more Austrian economics and libertarian thought
> > to see there is another way.
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