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Re: [ronpaul-93] Amnesty attempt again!!

From: Mike B.
Sent on: Thursday, January 31, 2013 3:45 PM
How dare these employers do what is in their best 
interest. Such a con that business do what is in 
the their best interest and the best interest of 
their clients. Those jobs don't don't belong to 
the business they belong to Americans and those 
employers better darn well no ignore them.

Mike (tongue in check)

At 10:00 AM 1/31/2013, you wrote:
>Illegal immigration is being used by the 
>insiders to tear this country apart.  Visas for 
>highly skilled workers are being used to 
>displace skilled American workers.  The scheme 
>involves hiring a contract worker from someplace 
>like India at half the price, having an existing 
>American worker orient the contract worker to 
>the position, then layoff the American worker. 
>Its a huge con.  Even in instances where the 
>American worker retains his job, when the 
>employer needs to expand and hire more workers, 
>he can still save considerably by hiring 
>contract workers.  It depends on the ethics of 
>the employer in just how low he will stoop to 
>find employees. The employers who do this tell 
>the federal government that they have to do this 
>because they haven't been able to find an 
>American to fill the position.  How many 
>unemployed professionals do you know who have 
>been unsuccessful in finding a job after more 
>than a year or two of trying?  How many of you 
>have seen foreign workers employed in skilled 
>positions formerly filled by Americans?  I 
>haven't mentioned unskilled workers because that's a whole other issue.
>
>The average worker in this country just wants to 
>support his/her family with a decent job that 
>he's trained for.  Salaries in this country are 
>so much higher than in many other countries that 
>its easy for a U.S. employer to take advantage 
>by ignoring Americans and hiring someone new to 
>this country who will work for cheap 
>wages.  Now, not all employers do this, but 
>unemployment is very high.  The figures showing 
>less than 10% are phony, as so many unemployed 
>workers have quit looking for a job.  Real unemployment is at least 20%.
>
>Normally immigration can be productive and 
>helpful to a country.  But when immigrants enter 
>in huge numbers, it is difficult if not 
>impossible to assimilate them properly and they 
>overwhelm the system, as has happened in the 
>U.S.  By the way, I don't support closing the 
>borders, especially not with a fence.  What can 
>be fenced out can also be fenced in.  The border 
>would be a good place to put  our soldiers 
>instead of fighting abroad in useless wars of aggression.
>
>Leigh
>
>
>
>From: Terrence <[address removed]>
>To: [address removed]
>Sent: Wed, January 30,[masked]:18:45 PM
>Subject: RE: [ronpaul-93] Amnesty attempt again!!
>
>kenoralane said; "Libertarianism does not 
>prohibit a person (or country) from acting in 
>his own best interest. Immigration, even legal 
>immigration, should only be allowed to the 
>extent that it benefits our country."
>
>I ask; just WHO is the "AMERICAN" GodZ that 
>decide what is a benifit and what is not a 
>benefit to "OUR" "COUNTRY". Factually, who is 
>"OUR"? Factually, what is "COUNTRY".
>
>God (you are free to choose your own creator) 
>created Man and Woman. God did not create 
>"Americans". Man, in his prejudice and efforts 
>to kill strangers, created "Americans" "Germans" "NAZI" "Mexican" ...
>
>Just think, soon all mankind will be forced to 
>take the MARK OF THE BEAST whether they be 
>"American" or not. I'm sure there will be 
>"AMERICAN" "GERMAN" "MEXICAN" "BRAZILIAN" 
>"CHINA" "MUSLIM" marks allowing all the differen 
>SLAVES the ability to compare just which are the MOST FAVORED SLAVES.
>
>If the USA is to be a free country all the 
>people lucky enough to get to the USA must be 
>free to come and go as they please.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>----------
>From: [address removed]
>To: [address removed]
>Subject: RE: [ronpaul-93] Amnesty attempt again!!
>Date: Wed, 30 Jan[masked]:15:01 -0500
>
>Anybody here want to pay the feds to evaluate 
>the people who want to immigrate here based on 
>their education and skills? Anybody want the 
>feds to have this kind of power? You do realize 
>that the feds will only let people in who will 
>help the feds. In other words, only big 
>government loving immigrants who will benefit 
>the feds will be given citizenship. Applicants 
>may lie. Austrain economists will likely be 
>rejected. Much $ will be saved by not allowing anyone to immigrate.
>
>
>----------
>From: [address removed]
>To: [address removed]
>Subject: RE: [ronpaul-93] Amnesty attempt again!!
>Date: Wed, 30 Jan[masked]:42:49 -0500
>
>I think that some immigration is good. I think 
>that we should encourage immigration of educated 
>and skilled people who will contribute to our 
>economy. I am against immigration or unskilled 
>and uneducated people in large numbers. This is 
>a cost and not a benefit to our country.
>
>Ken-
>
>
>
>----------
>From: [address removed]
>To: [address removed]
>Subject: RE: [ronpaul-93] Amnesty attempt again!!
>Date: Wed, 30 Jan[masked]:19:08 -0500
>
>So you are against immigration. Because 
>immigration is hurting America as I clearly 
>stated 9 ways. San Diego county alone spend 
>$160,744.90 January - March 2010 on foreigners. 
>Protect America, close its borders.
>
>
>----------
>From: [address removed]
>To: [address removed]
>Subject: RE: [ronpaul-93] Amnesty attempt again!!
>Date: Tue, 29 Jan[masked]:23:00 -0500
>
>Libertarianism does not prohibit a person (or 
>country) from acting in his own best interest. 
>Immigration, even legal immigration, should only 
>be allowed to the extent that it benefits our country.
>
>
>----------
>From: [address removed]
>To: [address removed]
>Subject: RE: [ronpaul-93] Amnesty attempt again!!
>Date: Tue, 29 Jan[masked]:02:02 -0500
>
>In other words, you don’t support individual 
>rights for people different than you 
>are.  Sweet.  I hope you don’t call yourself a libertarian.
>
>
>
>Philip Boncer
>
>
>
>----------
>From: [address removed] 
>[mailto:[address­ removed]] On Behalf Of i4freedom
>Sent: Tuesday, January 29,[masked]:56 PM
>To: [address removed]
>Subject: [ronpaul-93] Amnesty attempt again!!
>
>
>
>Open national border supporters such as 
>libertarians should consider the negative 
>consequences if foreigners are allowed into the U.S.A. at free will.
>1. Foreigners divide America with language 
>(verbal, written and body) and cultural 
>differences which leads to misunderstandings, 
>and violations of norms and laws. Birds of a 
>feather flock together. Many foreigners do not 
>want to assimilate to become Americanized. When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
>2. Hurts our culture with chaos and 
>disagreements caused by cultural differences, 
>alters our social norms (less defined) and lowers our standards.
>3. Increased unemployment of natives (those born in the U.S.A.).
>4. Cost taxpayers money for translators, 
>government publications in other languages, 
>ethnic and “sensitivity training”, different 
>treatment of minorities, handouts (welfare, food 
>stamps,…), minority departments at public schools, bilinngual education….
>5. Many foreigners bring their collectivist 
>ideas to America and expect Americans to adopt these unconstitutional ideas.
>
>6. Some foreigners come to America to escape 
>retribution for a crime or other wrong.
>7. Some foreigners come to America to commit 
>crimes to profit, get even for bad foreign 
>policy (“terrorism”) or “hey, hey, ho, ho, 
>Western culture’s got to go”. Foreigners commit the most crimes.
>8. Open borders would violate current national 
>law and our Constitution article IV, section 4, 
>and encourage the invasion as it did after the amnesty of 1986.
>9. Politicians who want amnesty do so for 
>political reasons (get more votes) only.
>These points indicate that even legal 
>immigration should be stopped. Close the borders (except for tourists)
>
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