Re: [ronpaul-93] Fwd: Lies and deception

From: Mike B.
Sent on: Friday, October 11, 2013 11:13 AM
>I hope you all did not miss the point Ryan makes 
>below. "The more the American people vote in 
>more government involvement and regulation, the 
>more powerful the Monsantos of the world get." 
>"In fact, I said I would not be surprised if 
>Monsanto hadn't sponsored the rally!! and was 
>not behind the efforts to tighten regulation!! "

Just like minimum wage the big corps vote push to 
get it passed so the mom and pops can't compete.

Mike


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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ryan <[address removed]>
>To: ronpaul-93 <[address removed]>
>Sent: Thu, Oct 10,[masked]:31 pm
>Subject: Re: [ronpaul-93] Fwd: Lies and deception
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>I went to the rally last year and got into a 
>heated debate with a person promoting Socialism 
>and soliciting material, claiming Monsanto is 
>the result of capitalism. Long story short, I 
>said what we have here is the opposite of the 
>results of free markets. The issue with Monsanto 
>reflects more of the consequences of 
>Socialism!  Monsanto did not get where they are 
>because of a great product or innovation, like 
>say Facebook or Apple, but they are in the 
>position they are in because of their ties with 
>government.  In fact, I said I would not be 
>surprised if Monsanto hadn't sponsored the 
>rally!! and was not behind the efforts to tighten regulation!!
>After our debate in which we had a small crowd 
>around us, he said sheepishly, " ok. you made 
>your point"... One more Libertarian convert!!
>
>Ryan Mitchell Couf
>PO Box 17752
>San Diego, CA 92177
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>On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Leigh Skinner 
><<mailto:[­address removed]>[address­ removed]> wrote:
>Thomas,
>
>I essentially agree that the market should take 
>care of this issue, that is, a fully functioning 
>market free that is from government tyranny and 
>control.  But when the government is in cahoots 
>with the GMO forces, it is too much for those of 
>us who crave real food.  And increasingly, that 
>real food contains GMO's that have traveled 
>through the air, so organic hardly exists 
>anymore, especially those backyard gardens that 
>Libertarians love to grow.  Haven't you noticed 
>that the situation is getting worse, not better?
>
>Leigh
>
>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
>
>Truth is treason in the empire of lies. Ron Paul
>
>From: thomas stephan <<mailto:[addr­ess removed]>[address­ removed]>
>To: <mailto:[address removed]>[address­ removed]
>Sent: Thursday, October 10,[masked]:52 AM
>Subject: [ronpaul-93] Fwd: Lies and deception
>
>So I have a problem
>  I don't want to eat GMO because I have been 
> raised on real food all my life and I ain't dead yet.
>  But as a kinda wannabe psuedo Libertarian, I 
> don't want to vote for a law to force it.
>Rather I would vote with my dollars.
>  Where do I buy non GMO food?
>
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>From: Food Democracy Now! Team 
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>Date: Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:47 PM
>Subject: Lies and deception
>To: Tom Stephan <<mailto:[addr­ess removed]>[address­ removed]>
>
>
><http://fdn.action...­ 
>time to Label GMOs! - You in?
>
>
><http://fdn.action...­ 
>us to win the fight for GMO labeling! - It's time to end the hypocrisy!
>
>
>
><http://fdn.action...­ 
>and the GMA have raised $17 million to kill GMO 
>labeling in Washington, Now they're suing moms!
>Dear Tom,
>The stakes couldn't be higher!
>Last week, the Grocery Manufacturers Association 
>(GMA) dumped in $5 million against the Yes on 
>522 ballot initiative in Washington state. That 
>means the GMA, who represents companies like 
>Pepsi, Coke, Kraft, Kellogg's, Starbucks and 
>General Mills, is now the lead funder in an 
>effort to silence GMO labeling in America, with 
>a total of $7.2 million. But the real story 
>behind the continued efforts to kill GMO 
>labeling in the U.S. is even more alarming.
>
>Already Monsanto has dumped in $4.8 million and 
>DuPont has pledged $3.4 million to bring the 
>opposition war chest to a total of $17.1 million 
>against the citizen-led ballot initiative Yes on 
>522 to label genetically engineered foods.
>
>As political experts have predicted, Washington 
>state is a 'do or die' battle for both Monsanto 
>and the GMO labeling movement – and we needd your help today!
>
><http://fdn.action...­ 
>in $5.22, $52.20 or whatever you can to help win 
>GMO labeling and defeat Monsanto and the GMA’s 
>lies once and for all! Together we win. Every dollar counts!
>http://fdn.action...­
>Even more alarming than the giant pile of cash 
>piling up from the opposition is the fact that 
>the Grocery Manufacturers Association is 
>currently hiding the names of the companies 
>donating the millions of dollars they’re 
>plowing into the race in what could be a direct 
>violation of Washington state campaign disclosure laws.
>$17 Million to Kill Labeling, Now They're Suing Moms!
>
>Unlike California, where giant junk food 
>companies like Pepsi, Coke, Kellogg’s, Kraft 
>and General Mills made their donations public by 
>donating outright to the opposition, in 
>Washington, these “trusted” American brands 
>are secretly bundling their donations in an 
>effort to hide how much they’re willing to 
>give to kill GMO labeling because they're afraid of consumer backlash!
>
>In an effort to get to the bottom of this 
>campaign deception, a group of local Washington 
>moms has filed a suit against the GMA to find 
>out who was paying big money to manipulate public opinion.
>
>Rather than comply with Washington election law 
>and reveal their donors, the Grocery 
>Manufacturers Association and the NO on 522 
>campaign filed a countersuit against the 
>Washington mom’s group, Moms for Labeling. Now 
>Monsanto and the GMA are using a law designed to 
>protect citizens from corporations to instead 
>protect corporations from everyday people. Seriously?
>
>Last Friday, in a perversion of justice, a 
>Washington judge sided with Monsanto and the GMA 
>and ruled against the moms, slapping them with a $10,000 fine.
>This is outrageous and we need your help today 
>to make sure that this perversion of our 
>democracy can no longer stand! We can't let 
>these corporations continue to keep us in the 
>dark about what they're feeding us!
>
><http://fdn.action...­ 
>in right now so we can stop Monsanto and the 
>GMA’s propaganda machine cold in Washington 
>State. Help us win the fight for GMO labeling! 
>It’s time that Americans have the right to 
>know what Monsanto is feeding us! Every dollar counts!
>
>We're close to winning and need your help to 
>cross the finish line! Two weeks ago, we 
>defeated the Monsanto Protection Act in 
>Washingon DC and earlier this year we passed GMO 
>labeling laws in Connecticut and Maine, now help us win in Washington.
>Remember, democracy is like a muscle, you either use it or you lose it!
><http://fdn.action...­ 
>donate what you can today!
>http://fdn.action...­
>Thanks for participating in food democracy,
>Dave, Lisa and the Food Democracy Action! team
>
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