Re: [ronpaul-184] BREAKING NEWS: Two more 'tea party' plaintiffs drop Federal...

From: user 4.
Sent on: Saturday, July 10, 2010 7:11 PM
Glenn doesn't comment often, but when he does... it makes a lot of sense!

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Glenn Austin <[address removed]> wrote:
Everyone that I have encountered that called Doug a name, or accused him of something, was unwilling or unable to explain what they mean?
Why don't they explain themselves? ?Why not?

what is?
a 'true patriot'?
the 'real tea party'?
Does 'on the front' mean I am pro Sun Rail and maybe deficits don't matter?

Help me out here, what does all this mean?

Right or wrong, seems to me that Doug is the only one ever willing to offer up *any kind* of an explanation of themselves.
Maybe it's just me?

Becki - if this is about Doug's personal mannerisms - can't you take it up with him personal like - instead of on Nick's board please.
Call your minister about it.

Thank you.

glenn
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with 'tin-foil hat';
don't leave home without it ?:)
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On Jul 10, 2010, at 3:46 PM, DOUG GUETZLOE wrote:

Kevin:
My rhetoric and statements do not involve personal attacks; innuendo and lies.? You defend the one who viciously uses lies, character assasination and vicious personal attacks and then you join her in the mud.
If you have any proof of anything that you or she has said?- present it.
If you were attacked my a small minority of small minded individuals who apparently have no record of actually making a difference in the community with unproven lies about your integrity and character, I doubt you would take very kindly to it.
While it's irritating to have this handful of malcontents wasting their time, I'm fortunate to have tens of thousands of anti-tax supporters and citizens thoughout Florida and the nation that know that these lies are not true, but it's still very hurtful.
I know that the actions I take as a patriot to support liberty and freedom are beneficial and supported by the overwhelming majority of this group and others (tea party, anti-tax, 912).
that believe in the fight to restore the Republic.
I've made plenty of mistakes in my life, but fighting for the causes of less government, less taxes and greater personal freedom is not one of them.
I've been a target from other folks envious of the success I've had in spreading the word.? Our victories have not been my personal victories - they are the victories of the people.
As one who is fortunate to have the blood of an original Founding Father coursing through my veins, these battles were important long before any of these local self-appointed 'tea party' folks decided to get involved.
But overall, it's good to have new blood in the fight, it's too bad they don't spend their time fighting the real enemy - socialistic democrat encroachment on the foundations of the Republic.
And anyone who believes the liberal/socialist drive by media and uses unverified, unsubstantiated rumor and innuendo as fact, is deceiving themselves.
Doug Guetzloe


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-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Sat, Jul 10,[masked]:32 am
Subject: Re: [ronpaul-184] BREAKING NEWS: Two more 'tea party' plaintiffs drop Federal...

Doug ,?

Unfortunately It's this type of rhetoric that shows you have no heart for the people. I can only judge you by your words and actions.?

Your treatment of this lady in word is reprehensible. Apparently she is angered at a lot of what she is bringing up. It seems you've angered a lot of people in Florida.

I'm a newcomer to Florida who's hailed from Virginia, where, historically we've run tyrants and crooks out of this nation. I'd do my ancestors shame if I didn't call do the same in my local community.

Are you a tyrant? You dont have the power to be one now.A crook? Perhaps, it does seem that many I talk to keep bringing up examples.

The point I'm making is that your character comes out in these emails where you only attack the opposition.

I would be a potential voter, as Becky here. Why give such biting rhetoric? Why only speak of past victory and try and prove out your past winnings at the ballot?

If you are, as one of your sites has claimed, a Christian, why not try the servant-leader principal. I'm sorry, but what I've seen and heard from you has not been of a servants heart for his people.?

Before you think, as you may already have, I'm someone trying to attack your TEA party llc for the sake of another political faction; I see the corruption in others that are in the tea party movement and will speak out with my God-given voice, rights and free will against any bad weeds I see growing in the new gardens of the reawakening of this Republic.

Ultimately, it's my duty, and every Americans duty.


We the people are watching.

-Kevin Conner


On Jul 10, 2010, at 8:58 AM, becki weaver <[address removed]> wrote:

You are the last one to explain to anyone what the TEA PARTY is. Everyone with half a brain knows that the REAL tea party?has NOTHING to do with your SHAM organization. Tell me, Mr. Gets-Low-as-you-can-go: How does it feel, to gain a fortune, and lose your soul?
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The rest of your lame comments show how very little you know about me....or any of us in the REAL tea party, for that matter.
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You're a mean-spirited, negative thug, who would sell your own mother down the river for 20 pieces of silver. Your business style is exactly like a STREET THUG, and everyone has seen exposes?of the way you "do business," CHICAGO-STYLE.? (Maybe that's why you have such an?affinity for?Grayson/Obama!)?
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Who hasn't seen the exposes?in the media/internet?showing how you extorted $475K from the cities of Winter Park & Winter Garden, $107K?from OOCEA, $200K from the MAGIC (twice)....and how many more that were never uncovered??
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But it is your horrid treatment of true patriots like Peter Lee and others that disgusts me and others.
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It will be a CDIH when I sit down at the same table?with you, or join any group in which you're a member.
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Everyone with half a brain knows that the REAL tea party?has NOTHING to do with your sham org, even the doc. filmaker kid from CA. who "interviewed" Peg D.?
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By the way, get a dictionary. "On the front"?means?being active in?the real movement for FREEDOM, forming relationships with other defenders of freedom,?and creating a united front, to peacefully take back our gov't.?
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It's probably best that you stay in your new bldg, which is FAR FROM being "on the front," dreaming that you're the?emperor.?
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Have a wonderful day!
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Becki Weaver
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----- Original Message -----
From: DOUG GUETZLOE
To: [address removed]
Sent: Saturday, July 10,[masked]:24 AM
Subject: Re: [ronpaul-184] BREAKING NEWS: Two more 'tea party' plaintiffs drop Federal...

I'm not sure what the color of the sun is in your world but in the real world, the official TEA party has 21 Patriots who are running for office this year, all tea party patriots and mostly former Republicans.
The "plant" was an individual invited to attend - as was I.? We would love to have a debate, discussion, meeting - whatever to discuss your concerns but none of you have the guts to confront any of us because you know that your positions are built of straw.
In the real world, our ax the tax victories are without precedent and enjoy a tremendous amount of support from actual voters, not the tin-foil hat types that sit around a room badmouthing people.
I have no idea who you are, (you're certainly not a Patriot) but perhaps you should use some of your boundless negative energy to actually go out and help elect a candidate of your choice; or try to beat back a tax increase; or go pluck oil from a seagull - something positive - rather than create negativity.
The TEA party is here to stay - over 10,000 tea party patriots have signed up with the party - the candidates are of the highest caliber and the cause continues.
As your little movement dies; think about doing something worthwhile.
I have survived the attacks of the liberal media and their fellow travelers for the past 30 years and quite frankly the attacks of you and your ilk are pretty lame compared to the media character assassination that comes prior to any Ax the Tax battle; and guess what - we always win in spite of the nonsense.
Hope to see you on the front.
Doug
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