Re: [atheists-518] Germany imposes ban on Tom Cruise

From: andrew
Sent on: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:13 PM

Horst,

To apply the term rational to the discussion of religion is... irrational.  They are all nuts, some are just more established and accepted. 

 

Andrew



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From: Horst Leuschner <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26,[masked]:33:11 PM
Subject: RE: [atheists-518] Germany imposes ban on Tom Cruise

Here in the USA anybody who claims to have a religion is supposed to be tolerated and tax exempt. Even believing in green people from Mars or the healing power of cow dung probably qualifies. Germany has a more rational stand point. Below is a reference to the "Church of Scientology"
 


From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, June 26,[masked]:48 AM
To: [address removed]
Subject: [atheists-518] Germany imposes ban on Tom Cruise

Every morning I read through my RSS list to see what's changed over the day and I found this posted by the BBC. I found it quite humoring. Following these lines of reasoning it's fun to second guess what the next logical step would be!


On another note, why can't we post to the forum. Something like this really belongs on a forum I think, rather than cluttering peoples in baskets...




http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6240312.stm

Germany has banned the makers of Tom Cruise's new movie from filming at military sites in the country because the actor is a Scientologist.

The German defence ministry said Cruise has "publicly professed to being a member of the Scientology cult".

Scientology masquerades as a religion to make money, Germany said, but leaders of the church reject this.

Cruise's producing partner Paula Wagner said the star's own convictions had no relation to the film's content.

"Personal beliefs have absolutely no bearing on the movie's plot or themes," she said.

'Heroic and principled'

Scientology has been monitored in Germany in the belief that its activities are "directed against the free democratic order" in the country.

Its status there as a commercial enterprise has prompted repeated protests from the organisation.

Cruise will play Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg in Valkyrie, leader of the 1944 plot to assassinate Adolf Hitler using a bomb hidden in a briefcase, scheduled for release next year.

German defence ministry spokesman Harald Kammerbauer said that Germany's military "has a special interest in the serious and authentic portrayal of the events of July 20, 1944 and Stauffenberg's person".

Wagner said Cruise's portrayal in the film would be as a "heroic and principled figure", while "Germany is the only place we can truly do the story justice".

"We believe the film will go a long way toward reminding the world that even within the ranks of the German military, there was real resistance to the Nazi regime," she added.

Stauffenberg's son Berthold told the Sueddeutsche Zeitung newspaper earlier this week that he objected to Cruise taking the role because of his involvement with Scientology.

"He should keep his hands off my father," Mr von Stauffenberg said.

Mr Kammerbauer, meanwhile, said that official requests for filming in the country had yet to be received.



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