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Re: [atheists-518] Kathy Griffin's emmy words

From: user 2.
Sent on: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:29 PM
I am sorry if my last email was misunderstood.
I do believe that Jesus existed. In my growing up as a Jew I was told that 
Jesus ,as the son of god, did not exist.  He might have been a great leader 
w/ethical thoughts to improve the world just not "selected" by god to do so.
It seems the responses I have received so far...seem to express their 
feeling that Jesus did not exist at all....LR


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Geoffrey Pierce" <[address removed]>
To: <[address removed]>
Sent: Thursday, September 13,[masked]:19 PM
Subject: RE: [atheists-518] Kathy Griffin's emmy words


> Lou,
>
> Putting down an imaginary friend as imaginary is different than belittling
> the ethics so many now incorrectly attribute to "him".
>
> If more of us spoke out and delivered the message that he never existed,
> more people would be spending less time focusing on him and serving him 
> and
> worshiping him and tithing to him and worrying about how to get themselves
> into heaven, and spend more time focusing on how to help people here on
> Earth in the present.
>
> Geoffrey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf 
> Of
> Lou
> Sent: Thursday, September 13,[masked]:31 AM
> To: [address removed]
> Subject: Re: [atheists-518] Kathy Griffin's emmy words
>
> I am sorry there are so many atheists that put down Jesus.  I was born a 
> Jew
>
> and was even told, when growing up (60 years ago), that there was no 
> Jesus.
> Jesus (or the men that actually seemed to quote Jesus) had some good 
> sayings
>
> that so few...especially Christians follow.
> It is the extremist in any religion that is scary.
> I personally wish there were more "ethical" leaders...including Jesus,
> Gandhi.."be the change you wish to see in the world" and others...even 
> John
> Kennedy..."ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do 
> for
> your country"....I just do not think they were inspired by god ...just 
> their
>
> own inner thoughts for the good of mankind.
> LR
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe hartley" <[address removed]>
> To: <[address removed]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 13,[masked]:44 AM
> Subject: RE: [atheists-518] Kathy Griffin's emmy words
>
>
> I say good for her.  It's about time that jesus was put back in the 
> recesses
> where he belongs.
>
> -Joe-
>
>
>>From: Mariah <[address removed]>
>>Reply-To: [address removed]
>>To: [address removed]
>>Subject: [atheists-518] Kathy Griffin's emmy words
>>Date: Wed, 12 Sep[masked]:19:51 -0400 (EDT)
>>
>>I believe the "off color" part was...
>>( from http://kathygriff...­ )
>>
>>"Can you believe this shit? Hell has frozen over. Suck it, Jesus, this
>>award is my god now."
>>
>>
>>On 9/12/2007 7:36 AM, Dave wrote:
>> > I wonder what her off color statements were. My google searches just
>> > turn up the fact she said something highly objectionable but who knows
>> > what. I'm hoping she found some way of saying something like "next
>> > Sunday when neighbors is off at her church her husband and I will be
>> > partying it up doing new things in between the sheets at my lousy
>> > parents house with my new god". Hopefully some remark breaking all 10
>> > of their commandments.
>> >
>> > I like her!
>> >
>> > On 9/11/07, *Terry* <[address removed]
>> > <mailto:[address removed]>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Good for her, for this issue alone she has gained some of my
>>respect.
>> >
>> >     ----- Original Message ----
>> >     From: Geoffrey Pierce < [address removed] <mailto:[address removed]>>
>> >
>> >     Yea for Kathy!  And for Atheists!
>> >
>> >
>>------------­--------------------­--------------------­--------------------­
>> >
>> >     *From:* [address removed]
>> >     <mailto:[address removed]> [mailto:
>> >     [address removed]
>> >     <mailto:[address removed]> ] * On Behalf Of *Ryan
>> >     Smith
>> >     *Sent:* Tuesday, September 11,[masked]:05 AM
>> >     *To:* [address removed]
>> >     <mailto:[address removed]>
>> >     *Subject:* [Atheist_Coalition] Kathy Griffin may not be as
>> >     annoying as originally thought!
>> >
>> >
>> >     CNN link:
>> >     http://www.cnn­. com/2007/ SHOWBIZ/TV/ 09/11/tv. emmys.griffin.
>> >     ap/index. html?iref= mpstoryview
>> >
>><http://www.cnn.co...­
> ef=mpstoryview>
>> >
>> >     ------------ --------- -
>> >     In her speech, Griffin said that "a lot of people come up here and
>> >     thank Jesus for this award. I want you to know that no one had
>> >     less to
>> >     do with this award than Jesus."
>> >
>> >     She went on to hold up her Emmy, make an off-color remark about
>>Christ
>> >     and proclaim, "This award is my god now!"
>> >     ------------ --------- --
>> >
>> >     I don't see how what she said is "hate speech" as cited in the
>> >     article. But it is VERY refreshing to hear this, even if it is from
>> >     Kathy Griffin. (ok, enough ripping on her, she has my respect now)
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
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