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Re: [atheists-518] Kathy Griffin's emmy words

From: Bennett
Sent on: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:53 PM
Lou,

I'm with you on this one.  "The Sermon on the Mount" is a top-rate philosophical discourse on ethics, in harmony with Kant's Categorical Imperative.  Whether or not some dude named Joshua Barjoseph actually said those things verbatim, standing on the shores of Galilee, is of minor importance.  The Thomas Theorem suggests a basis for validity.

Dave,
There has been at least one "worse evil" let loose on this planet than Christianity.  It's called Homo Sapiens.  My hope is to discontinue that legacy.

Bennett

Dave wrote:
Uh huh.

I'm not sure how ethical Jesus was. The stories about this make believe character make him out to be a monster if viewed without a dunce cap on. Gandhi was at least real but was he ethical? History has a way of white washing things. John Kennedy ethical? Not at all. Unless you read the rewritten history on him.

I have found very few truly good ethical people. More often than not a person has areas in which they are ethical at. And other areas with huge gaping bottomless holes you probably want to avoid. I wouldn't recommend ignoring those gaping bottomless holes and writing the person off as being a good ethical role model. It's up to you though...

As far as apologizing for putting down the Jesus crap? As soon as they start taking away the tax benefits for churches and the destruction of our country I won't have such a strong dislike for the wackos. If you believe in evils, I would say there hasn't been a worse evil ever let loose on this planet than this current religion. Just the sheer numbers of wackos running around doing things in Jesus' name probably out number those born before 1900. So it's relatively easy to say this Jesus Christ stuff is the worst thing that has ever happened to mankind.

No apologies from me! If you like you can call me a hater and go around apologizing for me. Again, up to you.

On 9/13/07, Lou < [address removed]> wrote:
I am sorry there are so many atheists that put down Jesus.  I was born a Jew
and was even told, when growing up (60 years ago), that there was no Jesus.
Jesus (or the men that actually seemed to quote Jesus) had some good sayings
that so few...especially Christians follow.
It is the extremist in any religion that is scary.
I personally wish there were more "ethical" leaders...including Jesus,
Gandhi.."be the change you wish to see in the world" and others...even John
Kennedy..."ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for
your country"....I just do not think they were inspired by god ...just their
own inner thoughts for the good of mankind.
LR



----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe hartley" < [address removed]>
To: <[address removed]>
Sent: Thursday, September 13,[masked]:44 AM
Subject: RE: [atheists-518] Kathy Griffin's emmy words


I say good for her.  It's about time that jesus was put back in the recesses
where he belongs.

-Joe-


>From: Mariah <[address removed] >
>Reply-To: [address removed]
>To: [address removed]
>Subject: [atheists-518] Kathy Griffin's emmy words
>Date: Wed, 12 Sep[masked]:19:51 -0400 (EDT)
>
>I believe the "off color" part was...
>( from http://kathygriffin.net )
>
>"Can you believe this shit? Hell has frozen over. Suck it, Jesus, this
>award is my god now."
>
>
>On 9/12/2007 7:36 AM, Dave wrote:
> > I wonder what her off color statements were. My google searches just
> > turn up the fact she said something highly objectionable but who knows
> > what. I'm hoping she found some way of saying something like "next
> > Sunday when neighbors is off at her church her husband and I will be
> > partying it up doing new things in between the sheets at my lousy
> > parents house with my new god". Hopefully some remark breaking all 10
> > of their commandments.
> >
> > I like her!
> >
> > On 9/11/07, *Terry* < [address removed]
> > <mailto:[address removed]>> wrote:
> >
> >     Good for her, for this issue alone she has gained some of my
>respect.
> >
> >     ----- Original Message ----
> >     From: Geoffrey Pierce < [address removed] <mailto:[address removed] >>
> >
> >     Yea for Kathy!  And for Atheists!
> >
> >
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >     *From:* [address removed]
> >     <mailto:[address removed]> [mailto:
> >     [address removed]
> >     <mailto:[address removed]> ] * On Behalf Of *Ryan
> >     Smith
> >     *Sent:* Tuesday, September 11,[masked]:05 AM
> >     *To:* [address removed]
> >     <mailto: [address removed]>
> >     *Subject:* [Atheist_Coalition] Kathy Griffin may not be as
> >     annoying as originally thought!
> >
> >
> >     CNN link:
> >     http://www.cnn. com/2007/ SHOWBIZ/TV/ 09/11/tv. emmys.griffin.
> >     ap/index. html?iref= mpstoryview
> >
><http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/11/tv.emmys.griffin.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview>
> >
> >     ------------ --------- -
> >     In her speech, Griffin said that "a lot of people come up here and
> >     thank Jesus for this award. I want you to know that no one had
> >     less to
> >     do with this award than Jesus."
> >
> >     She went on to hold up her Emmy, make an off-color remark about
>Christ
> >     and proclaim, "This award is my god now!"
> >     ------------ --------- --
> >
> >     I don't see how what she said is "hate speech" as cited in the
> >     article. But it is VERY refreshing to hear this, even if it is from
> >     Kathy Griffin. (ok, enough ripping on her, she has my respect now)
> >
>
>
>
>
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