Moderate: Winter, Beinn Dorain (possibly Beinn an Dothaidh)

  • November 9, 2013 · 8:30 AM

Winter has now arrived so this event is to act as a return to winter conditions to practice/remember (not learn) using the axe, putting on crampons, travelling through snow and ice

This is NOT a training session. You should already know how to use your ice axe and crampons

Reaching a Munroe or two is a bonus, not the objective of the day

There was heavy snow above the bealach this weekend http://www.meetup.com/scottish-hillwalkers/photos/18357032/302909292/

More heavy snow is forecast with sub zero temperatures for the week

You must read ALL the details below

Summary

Start: 08:30. Meetup Location: Bridge of Orchy car park (just before, not in front of, hotel), grid ref NN297395

Grade: Moderate, 10Km with 1,050m ascent. Duration: 5-7 hours walking, this does not include time for breaks

Directions

Crianlarich, at Tyndrum head right to Fort William. Go past Glen Orchy turning, hotel is short distance further

Links for this event

WalkHighlands description of area (the walk might not follow that described): http://www.walkhighlands.co.uk/argyll/beinn-dorain.shtml

Map of start: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=229750&y=739550&z=120

Met Office weather forecast: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/beinn-dorain-argyll-and-bute#?tab=fiveDay

Safety

Please read our Participation Statement: http://www.meetup.com/scottish-hillwalkers/pages/Participation_Statement/

You are responsible for your own actions. We will walk as a group at a moderate pace and not leave people behind. If you leave the group, you do so at your own risk

Winter

The mountains are very different in winter: http://www.mcofs.org.uk/winter-hillwalking.asp

MCoS winter advice: http://www.mcofs.org.uk/winter-essential-information.asp

Skills

Crampons will help prevent slipping on ice but knowledge of how to fit them, adjust your clothing and walk in them is needed

One of the uses of an ice axe is to stop a slide on ice (which is aided by modern waterproof clothing). It is not just a case of carrying an ice axe, knowledge of using it to save your life is required

MCoS Winter Skills: http://www.mcofs.org.uk/winter-skills-courses.asp

Glenmore Lodge (National Outdoor Training Centre): http://www.glenmorelodge.org.uk/course-wintermountain-skills-index.asp

Clothing and Equipment

MCofS recommended gear list: http://www.mcofs.org.uk/clothingandequipment.asp

Safety is for the group, we may refuse to accept someone without appropriate clothing or equipment

Required Equipment

Ice axe and crampons (not micro spikes) that have been checked to fit YOUR boots

Head torch. Days are much shorter and can be used to attract attention. If we are delayed you will find it unpleasant and dangerous walking in the dark. You will also be putting others in danger by slowing the pace and making us endure colder night temperatures

Survival BAG, not blanket (both good idea). Visibility can be less than 100 metres and it only takes a couple of minutes to lose sight of the group

Several pairs of gloves and mitts. These can become wet very quickly as your hands may be frequently going into snow. A larger pair will also be easier to put on if they or your hands are wet. Even if you have the best gloves you still need a second pair in case they blow away in a gust

Sunglasses AND goggles. Sunlight can be blinding. Goggles are needed to stop ice being blown into your eyes in high winds. Light tinting helps in whiteout conditions

Face mask. Zero degrees can easily become minus 10 with wind-chill, minus 5 can be minus 20

Fitness

Please read the details about walking grades so that you are capable of completing the walk: http://www.meetup.com/scottish-hillwalkers/pages/Walking_Grades/

Lifts

Please state if you can offer lifts or need one and where from using the comments section

Typical lift locations: St Andrews or Charlotte Square in Edinburgh; Botanic Gardens in Glasgow (corner of Great Western Road and Queen Margaret Drive)

Stirling has frequent fast train connections with both Edinburgh and Glasgow and might be a useful location for linking lifts between Edinburgh and Glasgow people

RSVP'ing

Yes: You intend to come and will turn up

No longer able to come: Please change to No so the group does not wait for you at the start and others can attend

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  • Jason

    Thanks for organising the walk Stuart. Good early season day on a fine hill.

    November 10, 2013

  • John O.

    Good day out, thanks Stuart.

    November 10, 2013

  • Jonathan L.

    Great walk, interesting snow conditions! Cheers Stuart for organising and some flawless navigation.

    November 9, 2013

  • brian m.

    Well organised and led by Stuart, excellent navigation and skills advice. Good group and walk. Well done Stuart, thanks again.

    November 9, 2013

  • Jonathan L.

    Ian & Helen, lets meet at the McDonalds on Great Western Road (just beyond Anniesland Cross) at 6.50am to drive up. Any problems my mobile is[masked]

    November 8, 2013

  • Jason

    Anyone coming from the Lothians?

    November 7, 2013

    • Stuart

      Travelling up on Friday from Ed

      November 8, 2013

    • Stuart

      Is Brian on route or Flakirk station?

      November 8, 2013

  • Ian

    Hmmm could be slow going above 700m:
    http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?n=568618

    November 8, 2013

    • Stuart

      Snow was in excellent condition last weekend, nearly completely solid; Beinn Dorain day temperatures haven't risen above minus 1 all this week; snow was falling all this week; Glencoe webcams are showing snow. So could be completely different to article

      November 8, 2013

  • Guto R.

    Sorry. Too much bloody work. Have a good walk.

    November 8, 2013

  • Jonathan L.

    Will be heading from Glasgae with room for two more.

    November 7, 2013

  • Lauren P.

    Sorry, unable to attend as my partner's not been able to get all his gear together and would rather go together. Hope this is early enough changing of RSVP to not be a 'no show' or 'late RSVP changer'.. sorry :(

    November 7, 2013

    • Stuart

      That's ok, understand

      November 7, 2013

  • Stuart

    Weather is looking good for Saturday. If you can offer a lift then please post a comment as most folks are coming from Glasgow and can share costs

    November 7, 2013

  • Guto R.

    Anyone have a lift up from Gla?

    November 7, 2013

  • Mountain G.

    Hi everyone,
    This is a polite reminder to read Helen's recent email if you have not already done so. We are getting tough on double bookers and no shows. You can find the email here Hi everyone,
    This is a polite reminder to read Helen's recent email if you have not already done so. We are getting tough on double bookers and no shows. You can find the email here http://www.meetup.com/scottish-hillwalkers/messages/60603132/
    Best wishes
    Mountain Goat

    Best wishes
    Mountain Goat

    November 6, 2013

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