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New Members only Overnight Ape Cave Snowshoe 3rd annual

Feb 28
Sat 7:30 AM
Location
Federal Way Transit Center

31621 23rd Ave S, Federal Way, WA 98003
Federal Way, WA 98003

This is a private home or office

How to find us
"Rendezvous at the sidewalk under the parking garage next to the bus stops."

Estimated attendance
 6  people attended.
5.00 5.002

Who organized?
Cameron

Please be sure to read this entire post before signing up...Thanks

Total round trip 7 miles
Elevation gain: insignificant
avalanche danger: insignificant

Maps:Green Trails map # 364
USGS map for Mount Mitchell


Pictures from last year

2008 trip pictures

This trail is accessible year-round. We WILL need snow shoes. This hike does NOT require any special caving gear other than lights. Trail length is approx. 2.5 miles cave and 2.5 miles snowshoeing on a flat road.

Lets beat the crowds on this very popular summer hike for families. We will avoid most if not all fair weather hikers by doing this as a winter hike. temperature is the same 42 degrees year round in the cave so what the heck? This is a must see at least once in a lifetime.

Permits.....Recreation Sno-Park permit is required visitor center is closed so please acquire a permit in Seattle if you plan on driving.

Must be prepared for: This is a moderate hike we may need to stomp through up to 2.5 miles of snow each way to get to the cave. Bring appropriate footwear for snow and cave hiking. It is a cave you MUST bring the 10 essentials as well as 2 count them 1,2 light sources and one must be a head lamp. (bring extra batteries). Be sure to bring a hearty lunch we will take a designated lunch break in the dark.

We will drive approximately 3 to 3.5 hour each way to:

Directions: I5 S. to Exit #21 at Woodland
East on 503 to Forest Rd. 83 Follow signs to Ape Cave. Will park at FS-83 and FS-90 ans snowshoe the rest of the way.

We will camp at the far end of the cave. We will exit the cave up an existing staircase. We will make snow camp at a safe distance from the cave exit. (Bring a good sleeping pad, extra food and extra fuel for melting snow) We will probably get home late on Sunday so keep that in mind. If you are new to winter camping please check out all of the excellent posts on the message board. Further questions please feel free to email or call me.

The caves were first explored by members of a local outdoors club, "The Apes," hence the name. Ape Cave is a long, large cave (known as a lava tube) naturally carved into the basalt by lava and water through thousands of years. Explored by thousands of visitors each year, these deep, pitch-black tunnels are an eerie and memorable experience.

From the main entrance the cave heads in two directions. The Lower Passage is easier and shorter. It delves about .7 mile past a number of formations, including a Lava Ball and mudflow floor. The Upper Passage is 1.3 miles long underground with a 1.3-mile trail aboveground that returns to the trailhead. Upper Passage is more challenging, with segments that climb over rock piles and a small lava ledge. Near the upper exit, a large hole in the ceiling of the cave creates a natural skylight.

Year-round temperature is a steady 42¡F. Two sources of light are recommended, and headlamps don't count. The deep darkness of the caves requires very strong flashlights or, preferably, large gas lanterns. Parts of the upper passage are rocky, so sturdy shoes and pants are also recommended. -----I will be bringing a Gas lantern.------

My Cell number is 206**491**5207 please make sure you have this written down. Lets take 10 minutes at the park and ride with all of us and we can look over and compare our 10 essentials so that new hikers can get a feel for what the rest of us carry. Also lets test all of our light sources and be sure we don't have problems. If I have your waiver on file then cool. If not please get it in you can find it in the file section. Or bring a signed copy along.

See ya on Saturday the 28th of Feb. and please email or post questions to the board

Cameron


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Talk about this Meetup

  • Cameron
    Posted Feb 25, 2009 10:02 AM
    Organizer
    Total of 16 spots. Maybe's count as a spot. Also We don't need any passes as we will be parking on the road. We always carpool from the P&R
  • Posted Feb 25, 2009 8:02 AM
    Where should I pick up a permit for the this trip? Also does anyone want to carpool? If it is a three hour drive I would like to split up the gas money as much as possible. -Kent
  • Posted Feb 25, 2009 3:14 AM
    Former Member
    How come only 7 spots? Is that some kind of national forest limit for a group? I know the national parks limit groups camping to 12 on the coast, if there are more they have to camp a mile apart.
  • Cameron
    Posted Feb 13, 2009 2:15 PM
    Organizer
    Please note this is for NEW MEMBERS ONLY. If you have hiked with us before please disqualify yourself. Thanks Cameron
  • Cameron
    Posted Feb 13, 2009 2:10 PM
    Organizer
    The ape cave is considered a fragile environment and dog's are not allowed. Additionally Backpackers policy is such that the only hikes that are dog friendly are posted as such in the original posting. Thanks Cameron
  • Morgan Logan
    Posted Feb 13, 2009 11:48 AM
    No show 1 trip
    I dont think dogs are allowed, but I saw people with dogs when I was there last time.
  • Morgan Logan
    Posted Feb 13, 2009 11:47 AM
    No show 1 trip
    Does anyone have extra sleeping pads, or know a good place to get them? I looked at REI and they are kinda expensive.
  • Cameron
    Posted Feb 4, 2009 8:11 PM
    Organizer
    REI rents Snowshoes and warm sleepingbags

Who attended?

  • 6 attendees
    •  This was a great adventure; still can hear the "drip, drip, drip...." from the cave. Great snow condo Cameron; good and fun group. More pics to eventually follow; computer probs again. 
    •  What a great bunch of people. Thanks for setting up the fire guys. Hope to see you all again soon on another trip 
    • shan (+1 guest)
    • Ryan Terwedo (+1 guest)