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Freethought Fridays: Midtown Book Club

New selection, Saving Normal, starts this week:!  We will cover the preface and chapter 1:)



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  • Ali S.

    This book has interested me to research the similarities between 297.1 (delusional disorder) and religious faith. This is the diagnostic criteria from the DSM-5:

    A. The presence of one (or more) delusions with a duration of 1 month or longer.

    B. Criterion A for schizophrenia has never been met.
    Note: Hallucinations, if present, are not prominent and are related to the delusional theme (e.g., the sensation of being infested with insects associated with delusions of infestation).

    C. Apart from the impact of the delusion(s) or its ramifications, functioning is not markedly impaired, and behavior is not obviously bizarre or odd.

    D. If manic or major depressive episodes have occurred, these have been brief relative to the duration of the delusional periods.

    August 29, 2013

    • Ali S.

      My thoughts:

      1. Mental illness is over-diagnosed yet socially acceptable only when manifest as religious faith/experience.

      2. What is considered abnormal thinking or behavior may sometimes lead to a more positive subjective and objective experience of life.

      3. 1000 character post limits suck lol

      August 29, 2013

    • Molly

      LOL! Looks like we will have lots to talk about tonight:)

      August 30, 2013

  • Desi

    Here's a little more background - very short transcript of an interview Dr. Frances participated in for PBS outlining his concerns before the DSM V was developed. (I believe the interview was completed in 2010).

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/health/jan-june10/mentalillness_02-10.html


    And his interview with ABC in May of 2013 - in which he condemns his own work on the DSM IV. http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2013/s3763502.htm

    1 · August 26, 2013

    • Molly

      Loved these! Two things about the PBS piece: 1) I want to be Judy Woodruff when I grow up 2) Frances had this in the bag before he even opened his mouth owing to his fierce eyebrow situation vs. the smug bald pate of Schatzberg...also, Schatzberg? Really?

      August 27, 2013

    • Desi

      I appreciate his comment that people don't request a disorder in order to get stimulants...b/c none of the families I work with would ever consider using their child in order to gain access to drugs or pressure an uninformed medical doctor into giving medications to them or their child. And that it was a "silly argument". Sigh.

      August 29, 2013

  • Desi

    Volunteering at Zoo Brew- I hope everyone enjoys the new book.

    August 24, 2013

    • Jerry

      Sounds fun, don't you go drinking up all the profits now ;)

      August 26, 2013

    • Desi

      I'll try my best to behave myself :)

      August 29, 2013

  • Ali S.

    I study the DSM and various mental illnesses as a hobby. Understanding what can go wrong and how it occurs gives me insight into how things should work. Really looking forward to reading/discussing this!

    1 · August 26, 2013

    • Jerry

      Cool, look forward to seeing you

      August 26, 2013

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