SHSNY Casual Sunday Brunch

We’ll meet at Noon just east of 2nd Avenue for outstanding Belgian fare, including a prix-fixe brunch for $17 and scintillating conversation around the (long) table.

Brunch Discussion: Is America “the greatest country”?

(August Discussion topic will be determined by the July participants.)

Everyone interested in getting together with 15-20 or more like-minded humanists and rationalists for good grub (huge selection of beers!) and lively talk is welcome.

Bring friends!

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  • Dorothy K.

    So that would be "woo!!" as in the utterance of a cartoon spook?

    July 22, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      Actually nobody seems to know where it came from but the best guess, since the expression was originally, woo-woo was that they were imitating the sound theremins made in horror movies right before the monster pounced on the girl. Sorta like "cue the spooky music" woo-woo here comes the totally insupportable spooky belief system.

      July 22, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hmm. Whoever came up with the next topic of discussion rocks. For me personally the rise of the nones does not augur much hope for "the change I wish to see in the world" but they are a fascinating group and at the atheist meetup I was at they at least seemed excited. But as Yoda would say to the nones "See through you I can there is much woo in you." Indeed and and once you go down the path of woo forevermore will it dominate your destiny. But they are a fascinating phenomenon. Looking forward to it peeps!

    July 21, 2013

    • John R.

      Jonathan: I don't know where you got the idea that the 20% of Americans who respond with "None" to the question of their religious preferences "generally believe in some sort of creator force that might involve itself in their day-to-day affairs" and that they "have a high belief in things like UFOs". On what evidence? Especially since it seems counter-factual.

      July 22, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      John I went over the character limit. I am going to try you on email.

      July 22, 2013

  • Pat F.

    Enjoyed hearing different opinions and meeting some of the members.

    July 21, 2013

  • John R.

    Excellent get-together, nine new people, and a great half-hour conversation - almost everyone participated - on the "Is America a great nation?" topic.

    July 21, 2013

  • Dorothy K.

    A meaty topic

    July 21, 2013

  • Pat F.

    Interested in learning about the Society.
    Brunch is good, too.

    July 17, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Alright I am coming! But I refuse to discuss "Is America 'the greatest country'?" That's a non-factual question and as such can only be resolved by reference to non-empirical preference values that are ultimately irrational. You'd be perfectly within your "logical" rights to say "America is the greatest country because we have democracy and capital punishment and as such are the only people that govern well and deal with criminal scum properly." You'd be weird to say that but I'd have to respect it. As such this question seems designed to provoke heated debate but no consensus and I can't have your first impression of me as being a loud-mouth know-it all. That's true, but it can't be your first impression so I'll just listen and eat.

    July 15, 2013

    • John R.

      Jonathan: The discussion question refers to an article that appears in the current issue of the newsletter of the Secular Humanist Society. If you'll send me your snail mail address, I'll send you a copy. [masked] (John Rafferty)

      July 15, 2013

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