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Re: [ruby-99] Note to recruiters and Trainers

From: Bess H.
Sent on: Friday, May 21, 2010 12:50 PM
Good post Shirley

Sent from my iPhone

On May 21, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Shirley Lin <[address removed]> wrote:

Gentle People,
 
  This is really a bit too much for a tech group to spend so much time on discussion outside the core purpose of the group.  Here are some points and if I may suggest, a possible solution:
 
1)  Some people do want to check out job postings.
 
2)  Recruiters do get a commission, a fairly good cut, from recruiting, and therefore it is a commercial act.  Therefore it would only be fair that the recruiters chip out a bit to pay back to the community that they harvest for their own financial gains.  This can be done either through a monthly cash sponsorship in small dosage, or sponsor pizza/drinks/cake kind of format, that is not too big of a sum to any small shop sponsors.
 
3)  Meetup allows each group a Message Board, where things like job posting can be pooled.  And it's up to members to subscribe to receive notice when some one posts something, and there is option of how often one would like to receive message board posting.
 
  Then it's a win-win-win for all.   Make sense?
 
Shirley Lin
Founder, YoXi123 - Social Games for Fun People
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Chanin
Sent: Friday, May 21,[masked]:11 PM
Subject: Re: [ruby-99] Note to recruiters and Trainers

Right now, I'm busy with the stuff I've got going on and I'm not looking for a job.  However, I find it useful to know what kinds of companies are hiring, what they do, what kinds of skills they are looking for, etc.  So I find the posts from companies & recruiters useful.

The follow-on posts where other participants slam the recruiter/company for some aspect of their post ... well, those, not so useful :-)  But everyone has a right to post their opinion, so I just delete the messages I'm not interested in reading.

I think it would be great if recruiters who post to the list want to do something nice for the community, like sponsor a snacks at a meetup, but I don't think they should be obligated to do so or forced to pay high prices to post.

- Steve


On May 21, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Jake wrote:

> As a recruiter: I feel like we come here to help you guys.. I really
> thought we were doing you all a favor! Maybe some of you don't need us,
> and you have a great job, and everythings perfect. However, that's not
> the reality of the majority.   Some people, NEED a job! Some need to get
> a better commute so they can spend more time with their kids.. Maybe
> that extra 5 or 10 K a year helps you take the family on a vacation..
> THAT'S WHY IM HERE!! If it's inconvienent for you all to hear about
> Opportunity then I'll happily get off your mailing list.. Also WE ARE
> contributing, by bringing our opportunities here to you guys. Right now
> I'm strictly working 6 figure ROR jobs in the Bay Area, and I don't have
> them posted anywhere else. I strictly brought it here to the Meetup
> group. It's not on Linkedin, or any job board for that matter...
>
> Oh! and I do admit we got a little out of hand this week. I apologize
> for that!
>
>
> Jake Bear
> Sr. Recruiter
> Jivaro Professional Headhunters
> P. [masked]
> F. [masked]
> [address removed]
> www.jivaroinc.com
>
> You can also follow us at www.twitter.com/jivaro
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> From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Amit
> Sarkar
> Sent: Friday, May 21,[masked]:13 AM
> To: [address removed]
> Subject: Re: [ruby-99] Note to recruiters and Trainers
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> The meet up group is for everybody and helping people to find jobs
> should me one of the activities. I agree with Bala that people who post
> jobs should contribute to the group, but $300 for each job posting
> sounds ridicules. 37 signal's job posting is less than that amount.
> Instead recruiter should regularly volunteer for the meetings and some
> sponsorships for the meetings such as Pizza or something.
>
> Also another two cents for Bala. I would never use derogatory language
> such as "you will be kicked out of this meet up group". I would show
> some respect to other group members and say an unpleasant thing in a
> positive way. One may have started a group but nobody owns the group. If
> we do not show respect to  each other then another group will spin off
> within no time.
>
> BTW I am not a recruiter. I have my own software development company and
> I do not post jobs ads anywhere including LinkedIn group.
>
> Warm Regards
>
> Amit
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bala Paranj" <[address removed]>
> To: <[address removed]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19,[masked]:35 PM
> Subject: [ruby-99] Note to recruiters and Trainers
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> The primary objective of this meetup is for developers to learn about
>> Ruby and network with other developers and start up companies to find
>> jobs. If you are a recruiter and would like to post a job, you need to
>> pay $300 for each job posting. Otherwise you will be kicked out of
>> this meetup group. If you are advertising your Ruby training you need
>> to pay $50 for each post to the mailing list. Another option is that
>> you speak in exchange for posting your training details. I think it
>> was Sarah or someone who has been posting every two weeks about Ruby
>> training.
>>
>> These rules will avoid those who are just "Taking" without giving
>> anything back to the meetup group.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bala
>>
>> P.S: Any violation of these rules will result in your name and contact
>> blasted through all the social media network. The online equivalent of
>> putting you on a donkey and kicking your ass into a desert without
>> water!
>>
>>
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