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Snowshoe/XC Ski/Hike/Hotsprings!­!! (all-day event)

IF the event is full and there's a waiting list--do sign up anyway.  History has shown me that some never show up; so the odds are decent you'll get in.

This is NOT an easy hike/snowshoe.

This event has two parts.

1.)  Hike/snowshoe event,

2.)  Hotsprings. If you plan to go to the hotsprings, understand that this will relax you to the point where you might just want to look into a room at the springs for the night.Some of us are staying overnight and plan to socialize after the hotsprings. If you have a motorhome or travel-trailer, you can take them onsite at the hotsprings—and some do plan to do this. (Can you say “after-party”!?!)

We'll meet up at the Woolly Mammoth Park n' Ride Lot at 8:30 am, leave at 845am. Figure an hour to get to the Echo Lake parking lot, and then a 4 hour snowshoe/hike, depending on how people feel. We should reach the Resthouse Trail trailhead at 9:30, and be on the trail at 945.

Carpooling.

  • We'll carpool from Woolly Mammoth.

  • You should determine if you are doing the hotsprings or not at this point.

  • Do not carpool if you will skip the hotsprings.

  • If you are staying overnight, you should drive to Idaho Springs.

Food--I'm going to bring some sandwiches and soup, but I'll probably want to drop into Beaujos or Tommyknockers in between events.

Snowshoeing/Hiking:

Depending on weather at the time of the event, this will be either a hike or snowshoeing event. This has the best links to the current conditions.  If there's less than 8 inches of snow, you won't need snowshoes.

http://www.14ers.com/routemain.php?route=evan8&peak=Mt.%20Evans

This is a social workout hike at a fairly aggressive altitude. Social means we are not racing, we're working out and having great conversation. We're not leaving people behind, but those attending should be in good shape so not to hold everyone up.This is NOT an easy hike. You should expect a quick-paced, strong workout.

The trailhead is at the fee area on the road to the summit of Mt Evans. The trail itself is NOT flat, and it is NOT easy. It is at very high altitude. Altitude at the trailhead is 10,600, going to 11,250. We recently did this hike and it is NOT easy, even though there was virtually no snow on the trail. If it's got enough snow to require snowshoes, it'll be a darn tough trail.

We aren't going to go for distance. We will hike for 4.5 hours total; 2 hours in, half-hour lunch break, and two hours out. It doesn't matter where we are when 2 hours is up, we will stop, eat, and turn around.

It will be quite cool, so dress accordingly. If you don't know what that means—google is your friend and you should ask questions in the conversation below. Your best weather.com comparable location will be Georgetown, I suspect.

We are all adults responsible for ourselves, so I trust you to have full heed of the seriousness of winter adventures in the mountains. As you surely know, in winter, one can get in trouble fast, so you need to prepare accordingly. It wouldn't hurt to download a winter survival app to your phone, such as the Marine Corp winter survival for Android, and carry extra phone batteries. Having a first aid app isn't a bad idea either. If you haven't gone to one of REI's free winter safety clinics, you really should.

If you need some ideas about how to survive if things go bad, hit Youtube and put in Ray Mears, Winter, Long. This will bring up the long documentary-type survival shows by one of the world's leading outdoor survival experts. These four links to some Ray Mears shows should be good, especially the first and last.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN-sPF28s0E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEVB0cpEPVA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdFdWd-BNkA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eeoq1BkP4k

We will designate a trail lead and a sweep.  I will also ask who has emergency medical training.  If you do not wish to have it known that you are a DR/RN, but are willing to assist medically, please email me privately so I don't ask you in the parking lot.  I've had Dr's/RN's on the trips who don't wish it known that they're Dr's/RN's unless there is an actual emergency.

By signing up for this event, you acknowledge that you are responsible for yourself and you hereby indemnify and release the owners, and all organizers from any and all liability stemming from your participation in this event.

Clothing: Do not wear death-cloth (cotton). Wool is much better. Army/Navy sells wool pants for cheap, and this might save your life. http://go-armynavy.com/ The local Denver Metro area stores are much more expensive than this one, andI know the owner of this one from college, Eddie Schmidt. For example, Eddie's Army surplus wool pants are $29, the same in Denver is $64. I suggest getting suspenders.

Gear:

Snowshoes can be rented at REI. Often, Sam's Club and Costco will have snowshoes for really cheap, if you wish to buy a pair. It is a really good idea to bring hiking poles along.

You should take along the Ten Essentials:

http://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/ten-essentials.html

You should prep for winter weather:

http://www.wta.org/hiking-info/basics/winter-safety-tips

I plan to carry a backpack with the following in it, (given only as example):

  • Firestarter – matches, lighter, steel and magnesium, and trioxane.

  • Knife

  • Saw/hatchet

  • Rope

  • Collapsible shovel

  • Emergency medical kit

  • Reflective space blanket

  • Signal mirror

  • Flashlight

  • Roll of plastic sheeting (approx 10'x 12')

  • Goretex shell top and pants

  • Downfill jacket

  • Dry undershirt

  • extra wool socks and gloves

  • 2 Thermos full of hot water

  • Extra food and tea – instant soup or instant potatos.

    High visibility marker tape (orange)

  • Coleman stove for heating water if needed.

HOTSPRINGS! http://indianhotsprings.com/

Be an adult at the hotsprings.

Anyone acting creepy will ride home strapped to the roof of my car with duct tape.

As Towely says "Don't forget your towel!"

We'll be back in Idaho Springs around 330pm. This gives you approximately 2.5 hours to hang out, eat, relax, etc. Thehotsprings event will start at 6pmyou'll arrive on your own and we can meet in the main pool.  Some of us are staying, so there'll be an afterparty for those staying!

Indian Hotsprings is a great escape--it's a $16 entry fee for the main mineral pool (without tax). The plan is to use the main pool, but you can always get a pass that is for the caves or private pools if you wish.  The private pools charge $20 per person, per hour (though honestly, that's all you'll want—they're really hot!).  FYI, private pools are hard to get without an RSVP earlier in the week. The caves are unisex and clothing optional. Maybe this is just me, but that's not my thing for a first meeting with people.

I'm not up for a private pool as a group, as they're not that big, and I don't know all of you and we all can't fit into them. Additionally, I don't want to be jammed wall-to-wall in a swimsuit in hot water with people whose hygeine I barely know.  Just sayin' it like it is! ;)

So, the main pool is best to plan on, and you can do other things on your own.

For those who'd like to stay overnight, this is a good deal:

http://indianhotsprings.com/hot-springs-special-offers

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ps-Bring your dog, as I'll bring my English Springer Spaniel, a 3 year old female.  Please understand that she's a sweetheart, but seems aggressive at first with other dogs--it's just "don't mess with me".  Her previous owner had other dogs that attacked her a few times, until I rescued her in January.  She's still young and getting over her PTSD, her psychologist said.  She'll get there.....

Next month: Skiing/snowboarding at Loveland Ski Area (leaders wanted!), and Snowshoeing/XC Skiing at Coon Hill, or at Bakerville Exit to the Loveland ski area.  Coon Hill is just west of the Continental Divide in Northern Colorado. Coon Hill is less than 1 mile northwest of the west end of the Eisenhower Tunnel on Interstate 70.  It is the highest peak in the Williams Fork Mountains. The South Ridge route is second class and is 2 miles roundtrip with 1217 vertical feet of elevation gain!

ps--why the $2 charge?  I've found that $2 is just enough to weed out those who sign up and then never show up.  If you're laid off or really need that $2, email me.  I'm not heartless.....

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  • Orson

    Oddly enough, Marian backed out. So I cannot join the group. Sorry.

    December 15, 2012

  • Orson

    THANK YOU Marina~for offering me a lift to the Park n Ride. I will call at 7AM to confirm to meet you this morning. THANKS again!

    December 15, 2012

  • Diana B.

    After reading all the posts, I am definitely planning on the hike / snowshoe, in all likelihood will be at the hot springs pool, but not staying overnight. Will that still work for carpooling? Should I plan to drive separately?

    December 11, 2012

    • Ravi

      Not staying overnight not sure b

      December 14, 2012

    • Ravi

      Oops ...accidentally hit the send. Possibly will hit the hot springs just depends on how I am feeling at the end of the hike

      December 14, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Is anyone *not* spending the night?

    December 11, 2012

    • A former member
      A former member

      I think about half probably won't stay, just a guess though!

      December 11, 2012

    • A former member
      A former member

      Great suggestions Jason--thanks for being concerned that people dress appropriately and bring a med kit. You were dead-on correct that it's really important! Thanks again!

      December 12, 2012

  • Joel

    So, may I ask what we are hiking? Does this trail have a name? Can you at least say in which direction we head out of the fee area? I'm sorry to be so inquisitive but I do like to know what to expect.

    December 11, 2012

    • A former member
      A former member

      I'm glad I'm not the only one who was wondering the same thing :)

      December 11, 2012

    • A former member
      A former member

      Up at the top, it's in green....resthouse trail

      December 12, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    So we should be done by 2pm? I am just interested in the hike part.

    December 11, 2012

    • A former member
      A former member

      I'd plan on 3ish just to be safe. Last time we hiked this, it was 245 when we got back to the trailhead, and it's another 30 min or so down the mountain. From there....another 30 min to Woolly Mammoth...I'd say plan to be back there by 4ish?

      December 12, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    My Son and i are going Snowboarding up at Keystone on Sunday if anyone wants to join us. We will be leaving from the Hot Springs Sunday Morning.

    December 11, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hey all--Blue and I have been talking, along with 2-3 others. We're going to go potluck dinner at the campground, to save some time and enjoy the outdoors a bit more. His RV will have gas and I'm bringing up my coleman stoves, so we'll have at least 6-7 burners to make food. I'm going to make some beef stroganoff over rice...at least enough for 8 people. Cheryl (from Denver Metro Social Singles) has a growler jug and said she'd bring it and we could fill it at TommyKnockers. Anyone else have one? Who else would like to join the picnic/potluck at the campground right outside Indian Hotsprings? What'll you bring? Brats? Some GREAT chips and dips? Casserole--since his oven works? Brownies? Pot's legal now! lol (make sure you note which brownies are which if you do bring pot brownies.....some people have jobs that drug test and the laws aren't real clear on how this will go now!). Ice cream bars? Napkins and paper plates?

    December 9, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hey Nomads!!! Gary from the other group DMSC asked about carpooling and I wanted to see if someone could pick me up Sat morn at the Hot Springs? I need to drop off my mtr home; if not I can tow a car up there. If anyone is staying up at the Hot springs that night they can ride with me or put your stuff in there as well. Thanks!!

    December 4, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hey Michael.. I like the re-write!!! Excellent. I will lead a Ski/Snowboard group next month if you need someone. FYI about the campground; its $23 a night and only electrical is available this time of year. I plan on bringing up my RV however without water!!! If anyone is planning on staying and needs a place to keep items refrigerated for the "After Party" i should have space available to accommodate you.

    November 25, 2012

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