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Re: [lampsoftware-8] PHP vs Python and frameworks

From: Pradeep J.
Sent on: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:24 PM
You should use whatever you are comfortable with.

1. Php, RoR, Java and Python are the Survivors. I think between them they are 80%+ with 15-30% each.
- Some B2B/B2C diehards claim J2EE (e.g. Apache/Tomcat/JBoss stack) is more robust for persistent ecommerce transactions, but I believe that is bunk. OS-Commerce & other sites work just fine with PHP. However Java seems destined to a slow decline to support Oracle enterprise. Java actually is its official external language e.g. Android/AppEngine.
- Python is really a google internal snobbish fad  and has little "official" support outside linux gnome & as a replacement for older UNIX X-window/TCL desktop GTK/Python apps. Notice that Google did NOT force Android users to do Python. Also, Google claims it will "eventually" support Php/MySQL for its cloud infrastructure.
- ASP/.Net is not popular among ISVs other than VB/Enterprise small custom apps.
- C/C++ while iPhone has reactivated it some, are not really suitable for the Web at all.

2. PHP is more widespread for medium and used by more majors - facebook, youtube uses it for UI/Rest APIs along with C++ media conversion and python, yahoo,etc.

3. Frameworks and Hiring. It is best to use a standard - pick from a top one for that platform - regardless of what language you choose. This greatly helps with hiring. We made the mistake of using our own homegrown framework, while it gave us immense advantages in targetting Social networks, web and HTML5/Mobile apps with same code base, the bad side was it is a challenge getting people to jump on board esp. outsourcers.

Best Wishes,
--- Pradeep Jain,

On 6/15/2010 1:04 PM, Jessica wrote:
We're about to start developing a web application. We have developers for both PHP and Python, trying to decide which language and what framework to use. PHP seems to be more widely used (including Yahoo and Facebook), quite some frameworks, but none seems to really standout or dominate. Python seems to be gaining popularity (Google/Youtube uses Python), esp with Django. I'm concerned about not only the technology itself, but also future hiring of developers with the needed skills. I'd like to hear your opinion on these aspects. Thanks!



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