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Ian McEwan is a world-renowned Booker Prize-winning English novelist and screenwriter.
Steven Pinker is a Canadian-American experimental psychologist, cognitive scientist, and author of popular science. Pinker is known for his wide-ranging advocacy of evolutionary psychology and the computational theory of mind.
The two discuss conversational rules of engagement; the
treatment of underlings; mutual knowledge vs. innuendo; plausible deniability in platonic relationships; ad infinitum; ritual and primitive emotion; transacting intimate relationships in words; rage and desire in Joyce's 'The Dead'; misunderstandings about 'The Odyssey'; and 'Bartleby the Scrivener' as the most annoying man in the world.