Re: [skeptics-137] Jehovah's Witnesses came calling

From: Penny
Sent on: Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:24 AM
I'm sure you're doing some good, Eric, and I admire both you and Diane.  I also hold people with the "Iggy Approach" in high esteem. 
We all have different styles, don't we. 

Penny


From: eric <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Thursday, August 29,[masked]:31 AM
Subject: Re: [skeptics-137] Jehovah's Witnesses came calling

Penny,

I suspect that when JW's encounter someone who identifies herself or himself as a nonbeliever or atheist, they do not return unless the person is pleasant, invites them in, and asks them about their beliefs.  I did those things (much to Judy's displeasure) without revealing my beliefs, except to tell them that I do not agree with how they interpret some parts of the Bible.  Now they come by about once a month to leave issues of the Watchtower and the Awake.  In return, I try to give them something provocative.  Last time, I gave them a chart of the theological disputes in early Christianity, which shows that JW's, who reject the Trinity, are not actually Arians, as they claim, but "pneumatomachi" (who held the Holy Spirit is not a person).  It is important to realize, however, that rational arguments are not very effective.  If they were rational, they wouldn't be JW's in the first place.  On the other hand, they have always been very polite and even humble, so I try not to humiliate or offend them--being kind and respectful works better.  Diane, by the way, handled them very well.

Eric

On 8/28/2013 3:16 PM, Penny wrote:
Eric - Would you care to share with us how you go about keeping the lines of communication open?  If not, that's OK.  Just because I might be nosy in no way obligates you to indulge me.

Penny



From: eric <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28,[masked]:31 PM
Subject: Re: [skeptics-137] Jehovah's Witnesses came calling

I have had extensive encounters with JW's and I have mulled over the best way to deal with them.  The best way probably varies from JW to JW.  I think you did the right thing, however, in being up front with, and polite to, them.  I try to keep the lines of communication open and they drop by every so often.  Good job!

Eric

On 8/28/[masked]:44 PM, Diane wrote:
Well, that was fun! A carload of Jehovah’s Witnesses just came to the door to try to evangelize me. When the spokes lady tried to hand me a brochure and started talking about god & the bible, I said with a smile on my face that I wasn’t interested. She said “you’re not interested in the bible?”, I told her no, I am an atheist. She & her companions were thunderstruck and stood there with their mouths open for a few seconds staring at me like I had sprouted horns! Then they asked me if I was raised that way – I am sure they thought maybe they had an unchurched patsy that they could awe with their amazing stories. I said no, I wasn’t raised an atheist, but when I got older & smarter I came to the conclusion there was no god and it was all just made up stories. They asked why I decided that, and I said I studied science. They launched into a spiel about where we came from and I just kept repeating “evolution from earlier life forms”. But what about the origination of the cell – don’t you think god made cells? No, it was evolution. What about the transition forms – where are they? We evolved, and there are transition forms between us and our earlier ancestors. But evolution is just a belief! No, it is the truth and it’s proven. She turned to one of her companions to see if she had anything further to say and I just smiled and told them they were not going to change my mind. I wished them a good day, and they finally went back to their car and drove away. I am sure they were puzzled that someone could be so “misguided”! I was friendly and smiling and nice to them the entire time, so they can’t say atheists are an immoral bunch of meanies. It was rather fun and maybe, just maybe, one of them will think further on what I said!
 
Diane




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