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RE: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Carlos V May 14, 2009 9:00 PM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Please stop the written abuse in our discussions - Norm, that is not the use of an ad hominem fallacy. An ad hominem fallacy is only made when the arguer presents irrelevant personal characteristics as a reason for rejecting the person making them's arguments. Keith has NOT done this, and is th Lance B. May 14, 2009 8:59 PM
Common Sense Principles of Discussion - Common Sense Principles of Discussion Effective and civil discussion is absolutely essential in reestablishing science on its firm foundation. Since discussion has in recent times become less and less clearly centered on i Dr. Norman R. W. May 14, 2009 8:23 PM
Please stop the written abuse in our discussions - Dear members, We have had a problem for some time. Many people have felt that the discussions that happen in the e-mail fail to be civil discussions. My schedule keeps me from carefully regulating the boards and my basic belief is I hate t Dr. Norman R. W. May 14, 2009 6:16 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Preview not available atrijez May 14, 2009 3:47 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Preview not available atrijez May 14, 2009 3:40 PM
Summary of April Meeting - Summary of April 2009 Meeting of Socrates Caf?? A dialogue on the question ?Does God Exist?? related to the debate between Hitchens and Craig. 1. Some felt that the question was not a question since there was no way to define the term ?Go Dr. Norman R. W. May 14, 2009 3:04 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Preview not available atrijez May 14, 2009 2:59 PM
Summary of March Meeting - Summary of the March 2009 meeting of the Fort Lauderdale Socrate?s Caf?? The question that was chosen was: What would it take for you to change your world view? Practically speaking this became a discussion of what it would take for Dr. Norman R. W. May 14, 2009 2:56 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Preview not available atrijez May 14, 2009 2:40 PM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Religion 101: Vox Day responds - Preview not available user 5. May 14, 2009 12:16 PM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Religion 101: Vox Day responds - Preview not available Jose V. May 14, 2009 11:39 AM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Chopping down the Tree of Life - I'm not tucking my tail. I'm asking you to go away so this board isn't filled with obnoxious clutter. I have no time or patience to argue with you, as I think it's a waste of time. You're a troll, and the way to get rid of trolls is to Lance B. May 14, 2009 11:22 AM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Religion 101: Vox Day responds - The left out the choice of: People are gullible and like to be fooled. Illusionists with ulterior motives will go much farther out of their way than people s Jay B. May 14, 2009 11:13 AM
Religion 101: Vox Day responds - Preview not available user 5. May 14, 2009 10:46 AM
9 PM Tonight.... - Preview not available user 5. May 14, 2009 10:40 AM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Civil Discourse in our E-mail discussions - Carlos V May 14, 2009 8:04 AM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping down the Tree of Life - Carlos V May 14, 2009 8:02 AM
We need you to vote! - Dear Members, There are three new polls dealing with issues ranging from Miss California to torture. So let your voice be heard. Also check out the "Files" section on the page. It has lots of interesting resources file Dr. Norman R. W. May 14, 2009 7:47 AM
Remembering Thomas S. Kuhn's - The Structure of Scientific Revolutions - The Structure of Scientific Revolutions by Thomas S. Kuhn Outline and Study Guide prepared by Professor Frank Pajares Emory University Chapter I - Introduction: A Role for History. Kuhn begins by formulating Dr. Norman R. W. May 14, 2009 7:02 AM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Civil Discourse in our E-mail discussions - Preview not available atrijez May 14, 2009 4:53 AM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Preview not available atrijez May 14, 2009 4:30 AM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Preview not available atrijez May 14, 2009 2:38 AM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Preview not available Lance B. May 14, 2009 2:34 AM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - JC, I don't necessarily think you can articulate a single, all-inclusive, complete, and perfect definition of something like science, any more than you can for concepts like religion, philosophy, or god. Scientists agree on what science is. The sugges Lance B. May 14, 2009 2:22 AM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Civil Discourse in our E-mail discussions - Hi Norm. It's not clear to me who's not being civil - JC, Keith, or who? I don't see anything "civil" about labeling profanity as uncivil but treating evasiveness and dishonesty as acceptable. The former is not harmful, but is Lance B. May 14, 2009 2:18 AM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Chopping down the Tree of Life - Evolution is a fact, sort of like the earth being round is a fact. You are not a person who is open to actually changing your mind, because you've been brainwashed by religion. You will accept any apparent disconfirming evidence, however shabby, and w Lance B. May 14, 2009 2:09 AM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Verdana } quote: " atrijez May 14, 2009 1:47 AM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Preview not available atrijez May 14, 2009 1:30 AM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Preview not available atrijez May 14, 2009 1:27 AM
RE: [socratescafe-114] The answer of evil - Preview not available atrijez May 14, 2009 1:07 AM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Ah Keith, you will no doubt be credited in the annals of philosophy with the Scatological Argument. But that leads to th Jay B. May 14, 2009 1:05 AM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - OK, I'll take a shot at the entropy question for you. Let's say that we take a pint of hot water, and mix it with a pint of cold water. Result a quart of Jay B. May 14, 2009 12:53 AM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Preview not available atrijez May 14, 2009 12:46 AM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Norm, The debate debate is not between "theistic evolution"(?) and "pure random chance evolution." As far as I know, there is no such thing as pure rando Jay B. May 14, 2009 12:26 AM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Dear Luke, I am not exactly sure where things started here. Dr. Norman R. W. May 13, 2009 11:48 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Carlos V May 13, 2009 11:28 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Carlos V May 13, 2009 11:15 PM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Preview not available Luke C. May 13, 2009 11:12 PM
Civil Discourse in our E-mail discussions - Dear members, At our meetings we have achieved being able to be civil in the middle of disagreement. I am very happy this has occured since it was one of the goals for the group. However, we have not done so well in our e-mail dia Dr. Norman R. W. May 13, 2009 11:08 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Carlos V May 13, 2009 10:54 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Carlos V May 13, 2009 10:26 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Carlos V May 13, 2009 10:13 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Preview not available user 5. May 13, 2009 9:50 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Carlos V May 13, 2009 9:23 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Carlos V May 13, 2009 9:16 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Carlos V May 13, 2009 9:05 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Carlos V May 13, 2009 8:35 PM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Joseph, the scientific method refers to a general body of techniques and methods used to acquire?knowledge, which?involves?observing,?hypo­thesizing, testing, and coming to conclusions. ?When you get into specifics (like peer review, graphs, and using math Luke C. May 13, 2009 8:15 PM
Chopping down the Tree of Life - Preview not available user 5. May 13, 2009 8:06 PM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Preview not available Luke C. May 13, 2009 8:04 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Carlos V May 13, 2009 7:56 PM
Science Defined - Preview not available user 5. May 13, 2009 7:51 PM
The answer of evil - Preview not available user 5. May 13, 2009 7:19 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Carlos V May 13, 2009 7:17 PM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Preview not available Lance B. May 13, 2009 6:00 PM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Okay....JC, it's okay. You can admit this is all a big joke now and stop wasting our time. We got you. Very funny. You're pretty good at pretending to be an anti-science creationist. I'll give you that. But there's no way this is serious.. Lance B. May 13, 2009 5:55 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Preview not available atrijez May 13, 2009 2:59 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] The answer of evil - Preview not available atrijez May 13, 2009 2:24 PM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - You're a real piece of work, Carlos. ?I'm pretty sure that you're so closed-minded that you won't give any real consideration to any argument I might make. ?Yet, I'll give it a shot. Evolution is driven by natural Luke C. May 13, 2009 2:14 PM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Thanks Luke, but in this case at least, I am not confused. Vox Day didn't use the term "living fossil," oxymoronic though it be. And I fully agree with your exp Jay B. May 13, 2009 2:10 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Carlos V May 13, 2009 1:53 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Carlos V May 13, 2009 1:41 PM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - " furthermore, what was even your point in posting this pictu Luke C. May 13, 2009 1:35 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Verdana } that's a decaying basking shark. the part that looks like a small head at atrijez May 13, 2009 1:13 PM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - My car has the headlight switch on the steering column. My mother's car has it on the dashboard. So they both can't be cars? Jay B --- On Jay B. May 13, 2009 10:57 AM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Do you know what a fossil is? --- On Wed, 5/13/09, Carlos V <[address removed]> wrote: Jay B. May 13, 2009 10:35 AM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Preview not available user 5. May 13, 2009 9:42 AM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Preview not available user 5. May 13, 2009 9:33 AM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Carlos V May 13, 2009 8:01 AM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Or maybe you lack reading comprehension. Jay B --- On Tue, 5/12/09, JOSEPH CURTIS <[address removed]> wrote: Jay B. May 13, 2009 1:17 AM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - My beautiful display had holes in it.? I'll post it again here: questions defining the problem, Luke C. May 13, 2009 12:33 AM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - What the hell, Joseph????? Are you pulling our legs with this one?? They all say almost exactly the same thing, only using slightly different wording..... Basical Luke C. May 13, 2009 12:30 AM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Preview not available user 5. May 13, 2009 12:04 AM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - OK, I'll play. How about, "every time a x-million year old "fossil" is discovered swimming or crawling around, it demonstrates how wildly inaccurate their the Jay B. May 13, 2009 12:03 AM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Science Defined - Are you saying this is NOT a consensus? Uhm, where do they disagree? Jay B --- On Tue, 5/12/09, JOSEPH CURTIS <philaegle@netzero. Jay B. May 12, 2009 11:55 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Preview not available user 5. May 12, 2009 11:50 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Davies Templeton Lecture - Carlos V May 12, 2009 11:32 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Davies Templeton Lecture - Carlos, you don't know what theory means. Jay B --- On Tue, 5/12/09, Carlos V <[address removed]> wrote: Jay B. May 12, 2009 11:32 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - I'll just say that when an unenlightened person pontificates, then those words cannot be trusted. I've seen Vox Day (which means "the voice of god(!)") quoted h Jay B. May 12, 2009 11:20 PM
Science Defined - Preview not available user 5. May 12, 2009 11:13 PM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Davies Templeton Lecture - Preview not available Luke C. May 12, 2009 11:05 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Davies Templeton Lecture - Carlos V May 12, 2009 9:58 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Davies Templeton Lecture - Carlos V May 12, 2009 7:30 PM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - "every time a x-million year old "fossil" is discovered swimming or crawling around, it demonstrates how wildly inaccurate their theoretical model is" I'm confused, what does finding so-called "living fossils&q Luke C. May 12, 2009 4:43 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Preview not available user 5. May 12, 2009 4:21 PM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Luke, I was locked out of that image at eden star books. Jay B --- On Tue, 5/12/09, Luke Cormican <[address removed]> wr Jay B. May 12, 2009 3:10 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - I find him to be unenlightened, at least from what I've seen. Jay B --- On Tue, 5/12/09, JOSEPH CURTIS <[address removed]> Jay B. May 12, 2009 3:07 PM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Yeah, Jay....tell us why, or Vox will chop you with his flaming sword of douche baggery! ? http://www.edenstarbooks.com/i­mages/theo_beale.jpg On Tue, May 12, Luke C. May 12, 2009 2:26 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Preview not available user 5. May 12, 2009 2:10 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - So I read the article. I don't see how it contradicts Darwin's theory. It adds a twist, sure, but all it says is that branches can recombine. It's similar to ho Jay B. May 12, 2009 1:28 PM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Chopping Down the Tree of Life - Preview not available user 5. May 12, 2009 12:16 PM
Re: [socratescafe-114] The answer of evil - Thanks for the refs. I'll take a look. My opinion was not strong either way. And I don't think I can get to primary sources on these. In any case, I think Jay B. May 12, 2009 8:59 AM
Re: [socratescafe-114] The answer of evil - Can't say I've given it much thought. Currently, I do. You know -- Alexandria and all that. But if you have arguments against it, I'll consider them. Jay Jay B. May 12, 2009 8:53 AM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Davies Templeton Lecture - Carlos V May 12, 2009 8:21 AM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Davies Templeton Lecture - Preview not available user 5. May 12, 2009 12:53 AM
Re: [socratescafe-114] Davies Templeton Lecture - Preview not available Luke C. May 12, 2009 12:37 AM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Davies Templeton Lecture - Carlos V May 12, 2009 12:23 AM
RE: [socratescafe-114] Davies Templeton Lecture - Carlos V May 11, 2009 11:39 PM
Re: [socratescafe-114] The answer of evil - Preview not available user 5. May 11, 2009 11:17 PM

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