Taking a philosophical look at budget 2013

Hi all,

the following links will give you a comprehensive overview the contents of budget 2013.  I'll bring along a few printouts tomorrow night as well.

Good 6 page summary of main changes:



A more comprehensive explanation of the changes:



We encourage you to pick any elements that you feel would make for good discussion.


Wednesday December 5th is/was budget day.  Some folks have asked if we could facilitate a philosophical dialogue on the contents of this years budget.  So we are going to give it a go.  We'll circulate a summary of the budget around in advance of the session and then we'll break into groups to discuss it from a philosophical point of view.  It has the potential to bring us interesting places.  Let's see where...

We'll be starting the conversation at 7:30pm upstairs in Eamon Doran's Tavern On the Green. Last month we met upstairs in our own dedicated space.  It's spacious and quiet and feedback from all who attended was positive.  So we are back there again this month.

Just one thing we would ask: As Eamon Doran's will be opening the upstairs section next Tuesday exclusively for Socrates Cafe, we would greatly appreciate if you could purchase a beverage from the upstairs bar at some point during the evening.  It's such a great venue that we would like to do what we can to nurture our relationship with them at this early stage.

So do come along for another engaging conversation that invites all to participate and learn.

Roy & Paul

Socrates Cafe - a space where ideas and dialogue can flourish

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  • A former member
    A former member

    It was more ideological than philosophical and most concepts seemed reactionary with very little space for libertarianism or respect for negative rights. This is hardly surprising when conservatism is the moral default. I think we need a more rigorous analysis as a lot of the arguments were not valid or sound and lacked conceptual clarity. Some participants in both groups are delighted to display their knowledge but tend not to listen and hog the discussion. I became frustrated and got competitive which in hindsight was a mistake, and I left feeling perplexed. I need to be more Socratic and ask questions instead of arguing. Maybe we tried to cover to much ground.

    December 14, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Really nice friendly group!

    December 12, 2012

  • Paul

    John, it's right at the corner where Leeson street meets Stephen's Green. A few doors up from Hartigans bar.

    December 10, 2012

  • John M.

    could somebody please check that map and ensure it gives enough info to find the venue please? not having much look; google says it has closed or relocated....?

    December 10, 2012

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