From: Travis <[address removed]>
Subject: Re: [newurbanism-101] A short essay on The future culture of sustainability
To: [address removed]
Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 3:59 PM

....What fantasy are you speaking of?  That the world can change?  Because that
is a fantasy I can get behind.   "Fantasies" become reality because
people ignore naysayers and pursue something.  Downward Spiral's Silver Lining: End of Lonely Plastic Culture               


by Jan Lundberg       
07 February 2009
Culture Change Letter #234

Can you distill your previous email into one or two sentences?  Because I
don't understand a single word.


Mike Walker wrote:
>  Anne,
> ...observing history, current legal paradigms and contrasting it to a
fantasy is constructive. Placing ones time, energy and resources into the
framework of an unrealistic fantasy is harmful to oneself. There is a term for
this, "duped".  Once again look at history, many people put their life
savings into preparation for the end of world at Y2K it never came, similar with
many religious cults. Telling the truth is the most constructive thing that can
be done, where did I lie?
> People can get on a plane and fly to Pune India and live the life of
organic food and djembe rythms in Osho's meditation center. The community of
love and sustainability can be had on Free John's Island in Fiji.
Additionally,  there are numerous sustainable intentional communites throughout
the world, so we know the dream can be built. But of course one must query, is
everyone happy there?  However, each of these isolated utopias is privately
owned. Private ownership is post tribalism so there are some big conflicts in
what the essayist is selling. One thing to consider is would everyone be happy
living in this so called culture of sustainability, as described by the
essayist? If not then what to do about it? Well, the latter question will lead
you to some of the post tribal era political and legal inventions. The very
things the essayist suggest we start to dismantle. Instead of dismantling, which
could lead to Stalinistic...  I suggest some form of improvement of post tribal
political inventions, after all, these lamented inventions have predicated the
creation of sustainable communities today! Of course one would observe the two
cutting edges along the sword of the post tribal political inventions, as they
have led to crisis in Darfur, Detroit, Haiti and so on, as well as Free
John's Fiji Utopia.  Personally, I will put my efforts into preparing for a
serdom imposed by the agents of "hope" and "change". Be
wise, don't be duped,  question everything, even if it comes in an organic
sustainable package swaying to the rythms of a djembe.  in peace, m
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