Re: [new-tampa-philosophers] Fukuyama's Transhumanism

From: Galen M.
Sent on: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 8:19 PM
You asked if we agree or see flaws.  Clearly we see flaws.  If I started from scratch I might make a different argument against transhumanism but could not at all be a motivated devils advocate in defense of his position here.  It's fallacious logic built on a weak premise.  

Though he did point out that a lot of transhumanist literature is unrealistic, amateurish and scary.  In that he is correct.  

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 05:29, Anna <[address removed]> wrote:
looks like none of you bright minds want to challenge my irritation with Fukuyama's position.

As to Pete's suggestion, I think Fukuyama needs to start with classics, like Dawkins's "Extended Phenotype".

On the arguments from emotions, the one he is the most concerned is that if biotechnological manipulations removed our ability to feel emotions like anger, hate, or violence, we would in some sense not be human beings any more. He seems to be arguing that to be a human being one must possess all of the emotional capacities characteristic of our species. I wish him good luck to never needing any Prozac then, otherwise he would become inhuman.

Bob, keep the fun coming:)

On 2/15/2012 7:46 PM, Galen Matson wrote:
It boils down to this: "But it is very possible that we will nibble at biotechnology's tempting offerings without realizing that they come at a frightful moral cost."

Meaning, we are not moral enough to be trusted.  Best not to try.

He then makes a slippery slope argument: "If we start transforming ourselves into something superior, what rights will these enhanced creatures claim, and what rights will they possess when compared to those left behind?"

And then an emotional appeal: "We need a similar humility concerning our human nature. If we do not develop it soon, we may unwittingly invite the transhumanists to deface humanity with their genetic bulldozers and psychotropic shopping malls."

I hope this is not considered a convincing argument against transhumanism.

Next question.


On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 04:30, Anna <[address removed]> wrote:
The limited group of Thinkers on Facebook are not replying, so I figured I'll ask here: so, the most vocal opponent of transhumanism is Francis Fukuyama. Though I myself disagree with him on this, I would like to hear other opinions on his position. Please, take a look at his article on this topic and let me know if you agree or see any flaws:http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2004/09/01/transhumanism



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