RE: [lpsf] Mayoral forum at Castro Theater TONIGHT - 7-930pm

From: Ernie S
Sent on: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 11:40 AM
Great report, thanks!  Based on the recorded voice message left on my voicemail, Tony Hall's main platform, besides fiscal responsibility in general, is massive city pension reform, which he emphasizes like in the first 15-20 seconds of the message.  He also mentioned Zero-Based Budgeting, which can always be a fun governmental exercise; I know DoD had a good time going through it under President Carter.
 
Ernie Stanton (from my 2nd generation Prop 13-protected home West of Twin Peaks)
 
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> Subject: RE: [lpsf] Mayoral forum at Castro Theater TONIGHT - 7-930pm
> Date: Tue, 9 Aug[masked]:47:01 -0400
>
> Great report Starchild....thx
>
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> From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Starchild
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> Subject: Re: [lpsf] Mayoral forum at Castro Theater TONIGHT - 7-930pm
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> Hey Jeremie,
>
> Did you end up going? Sorry I don't really do texts, and didn't read
> your message.
>
> It was an interesting event. I was pretty amazed that they managed to
> pack the Castro Theater with virtually a full house, probably at least
> several hundred people. There were some fireworks too, as uninvited
> Green Party candidate Terry Baum showed up and sat in an extra chair
> on stage, refusing to leave unless they arrested her (good for her!)
> They let her stay, and she got to answer a couple questions when other
> candidates ceded some time to her. At one point she ripped into Dennis
> Herrera for refusing as city attorney to allow over 200 votes for her
> as a write-in candidate against Nancy Pelosi to be counted, because
> those voters had written in her name but hadn't connected the arrow on
> the ballot. She's right, that was an incredibly anti-democratic
> decision that flew in the face of common sense.
>
> Also making an apparently unscheduled appearance as one of the
> candidates on stage (he hadn't been listed on the flier for the event)
> was interim mayor Ed Lee. Lee predictably took potshots from a number
> of the other candidates for breaking his promise not to run for a full
> term as mayor. Of the candidates who went after him, Leland Yee was
> the most confrontational, attacking the independent expenditure
> committee that's mounted the "Run, Ed, Run" campaign in support of Lee
> in strong terms and saying it must be "shut down immediately". Tony
> Hall said he welcomed Lee into the race, but made it a rather
> backhanded approval by adding that he hadn't been surprised by Lee's
> about-face, because he'd believed it was a set-up from the beginning.
> David Chiu, one of the more wishy-washy candidates, imho, settled for
> more vaguely anti-Lee comments like "it's about independence" and that
> the successes he says they'd had at City Hall during the current term
> were "based on fundamental trust".
>
> The jabs from other candidates were expected, but what surprised me
> is that Lee drew sustained boos from a fairly large number of people
> in the audience the first couple times he tried to speak, and
> intermittently after that. Although I wasn't among those booing, I was
> encouraged by this sign that many San Franciscans, despite what they
> put up with from the political class, still *do* think blatantly
> breaking a key promise is a big deal. I also saw a couple people
> sporting "Lie, Ed, Lie" buttons. Gotta get one of those! :-)
>
> Several of the candidates blatantly pandered to the presumed gay-
> heavy Castro neighborhood audience. John Avalos claimed he'd just been
> tweeted by someone who'd told him he'd be a great gay mayor (he is
> straight). He also noted the movie theater venue with a quote from
> Lord of the Rings, about how when you're wearing a ring of power,
> you're alone (they'd been asked a terrific question that almost all of
> them ducked, namely when they had taken unpopular stands). During the
> applause for Avalos after his response, I yelled that he should throw
> the ring of power into the volcano. :-) It was a pretty spirited
> crowd, so I didn't feel too self-conscious doing it.
>
> Phil Ting was rather disappointing. I wasn't that familiar with him
> and thought he might be advocating a fairly fiscally conservative
> message, but he made a couple really bad comments in that area,
> including boasting that "I'm one of the few elected officials in
> California who has championed Prop. 13 reform" (read: raising property
> taxes), and claiming that the number one problem with education is
> that "We're not spending any money on schools". You can't make this
> stuff up.
>
> Right now the candidates I'm most interested in supporting are Terry
> Baum, Tony Hall, or Joana Rees. Rees is still a pretty unknown
> quantity to me. She had a few good-sounding things to say at the
> forum, but was troublingly short on specifics or much of an
> identifiable ideology. Except for the fact that she *hasn't* been in
> politics, she sounded a lot like a career politician hewing to the
> middle. Hall is the most fiscally conservative, but although he can be
> refreshingly frank about many things, like alleging corruption and
> insider cronyism at City Hall, he's rather too much the politician for
> me to be comfortable with him. For instance, he says he's not
> supporting Jeff Adachi's pension reform measure because it doesn't
> include health care, which sounds to me like a very weak excuse to
> avoid taking a stance he thinks will be unpopular. He told the
> audience he wasn't supporting either pension measure, but didn't
> explain publicly what he told me in person, that he didn't think
> Adachi's measure did *enough* to rein in costs (when I asked him if
> his lack of support was because he thought it did too much or too
> little. This is also a former Supervisor who voted to raise his own
> pay. Terry is probably the most liberal candidate; I think she'd be
> excellent on civil liberties, but worry about what she'd do on the
> fiscal side. She was wearing a button saying "Tax the rich". Still,
> the fact that she's such an outsider and would probably shake up the
> status quo more than any of the others makes it tempting to support
> her. If any of this crop would be likely as mayor to, say, stand up to
> federal bullying on marijuana, immigration, war on terror stuff, etc.,
> it would be Terry.
>
> I may post some more notes later, but more likely on [address removed]
> . A problem with posting to Meetup is that they don't allow you to
> address a message to multiple lists, which means if I want to send
> something to three Meetup lists, I'd have to send three different
> messages. Consequently I tend to post more on Yahoo. I encourage
> everyone to lobby Meetup to drop this rule, and also the daily posting-
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> spam measures, but I think a better approach would be for them to more
> aggressively go after spammers.
>
> Love & Liberty,
> ((( starchild )))
>
>
> On Aug 8, 2011, at 6:22 PM, jeremier wrote:
>
> > Sent a text message, in case you want to meet after (may not be able
> > to make 7)
> >
> > J
> >
> > On Aug 8, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Starchild <[address removed]> wrote:
> >
> >> The flier lists candidates Alioto-Pier, Avalos, Chiu, Dufty,
> >> Hall, Herrera, Rees, Ting, and Yee, is sponsored by several
> >> different groups, and has a moderator from KPIX. Should be a pretty
> >> big forum, I'll probably check it out. Anybody else want to go? If
> >> so and you'd like to meet up, give me a call at (415) 625-FREE, as
> >> I may not see an email in time.
> >>
> >> Love & Liberty,
> >> ((( starchild )))
> >>
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