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Response to Joey - The Trinity

A former member
Post #: 4
It's been almost two months since I've seen Joey, I believe one of the questions he asked was
Do I believe in a Trinity?

If he's brave enough to show up to this coming meeting, we may be able to discuss this topic.
The following is my understanding of the Trinity, preceded by the definition of a few terms.

YHVH – Jehovah (in the KJV)
Y'shua – Jesus (in the KJV)
Ruach HaKodesh – the Holy Ghost (in the KJV)
Elohim – a plural term meaning god(s), God(s) or judge(s) (in the KJV)
Echad – a plural unity (implies part of a group)
Yachid – a singular unity

Do I believe in a Trinity?

Implied in this question is:
Do I believe Y'shua is YHVH, or part of YHVH or another YHVH.
Do I believe the Ruach HaKodesh is YHVH, or part of YHVH or another
YHVH.

Part one
Is Y'shua or the Ruach HaKodesh another YHVH?

Answer:
There is only one YHVH (De 6:4).
YHVH is the chief of the Elohim (De 4:35, Ps 83:18).

YHVH is one of a plurality of Elohim (gods/judges) but there is only
one YHVH.

Part two
Are Y'shua or the Ruach HaKodesh a part of YHVH.

Answer:
YHVH is not schizophrenic; there are not three people in YHVH's head.

Part three
Is Y'shua, YHVH
and is the Ruach HaKodesh, YHVH

Answer:
YHVH is our y'shua, salvation (Ex 15:2) and the individual, son of
Joseph and Mary is named Y'shua. YHVH is y'shua (salvation) but
Y'shua (the individual) is not all of YHVH (see part four)

I understand the Ruach HaKodesh to be the Word of YHVH (Mic 3:8, Zec
4:8). YHVH is defined by his word and the word of YHVH contains the
essence of G-d. The Word of YHVH is his name and his breath (spirit).
The tendency in the Hebraic literature is anthromophize everything
from trees to rocks, the word/breath of G-d may appear to be a
separate entity in itself, but it is not.

Part four
Y'shua is Elohim, god (Ps 82:6, John 10:34) but then everyone who
judges righteously is god, in the sense we all make judgments that
effect not only ourselves but everyone around us.

YHVH is one (echad) but is not one (yachid), YHVH is in unity with
all tzaddikim/elohim past (Rev 3:21). This becomes apparent when you
realize the book of Revelation precedes the book of Genesis. (Think
of time as a circle where the end of the circle connects to the
beginning of the circle, the end of the circle precedes the
beginning.)

Conclusion:
The Christian concept of a divided G-d (the Trinity) is a product of
western ideology and is in fact blasphemous.
No, I do not believe in a Trinity.

I refer to YHVH as male but in fact YHVH is both male and female.
Past tzaddikim includes, but is not limited to, ascended masters such
as Chanoch (Enoch) and Eliyahu (Elijah).
Another term for tzaddikim is overcomers (Rev 3:12).
Time is neither linear, nor circular. I depicted time as a circle in
order to express the Hebraic viewpoint of the cyclic progression of
time.

Please feel free to question or comment.

Shalom
Steve
A former member
Post #: 16
Steve, Joey apologizes for not being able to get back to you and I just spoke to him and he says he would love to sit with you on April 6th and discuss this in detail.
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