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Approximately 1,400 BC
Later Re-affirmed in 33 AD
Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Exodus 20:1 And God spake all these words, saying,
2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Matthew 28:19 was fulfilled in the Book of, The Acts of The Apostles, it was not ignorantly repeated.
Acts 2:38-39 Then Peter said unto them, "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call."
And this was the 1st time the commandment was fulfilled, notice the next few verses.
41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
This was the beginning of the fulfillment of the New Covenant, this IS WHAT THE TRUE EARLY CHURCH TAUGHT.
Here are three more examples in scripture of Christ's Commandment from Matthew Chapter 28 being fulfilled instead of repeated:
You will notice in verse 16 they were baptized in the NAME OF JESUS but hadn't received the Holy Ghost till the Apostles laid hands on them and prayed over them.
Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
This example is extra special to me because this is the 1st time salvation came to the Gentiles. I recommend you read the entire 10th Chapter of Acts.
Acts 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
In the 10th Chapter some people received the Holy Ghost by simply hearing the preaching of God's word yet Peter still commanded water baptism. Why? Because it's part of God's death, burial, and resurrection.
Here you will find disciples of John The Baptist being re-baptized, perhaps if you were baptized under Constantine's Vision/Baptism, this passage might apply to you except one is by, "The Greatest Prophet," (John The Baptist) and the other was by a pagan barbarian conqueror (Constantine.)
(Notice verse 5)
Acts 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Baptism is very elementary, it's one of the very basic principles of Christianity, but it can also be used to explain God's Oneness Deity..
In my next teaching, I will show you using scripture how The Word of God, (The Law) became flesh and was crucified...
Edited by User 10,973,982 on May 11, 2010 12:57 PM
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In the Apostolic History Outline, by Rev. Marvin M. Arnold, we read...
AD 1400, Anabaptists were neither Catholic nor Protestant. It was a pre-Reformation day. There were great numbers of Apostolic clergymen preaching Acts 2:38 doctrine which was conducive to holy living. They advocated the "born-again" experience defined in Acts two. They DID NOT hold the idea of reforming a dead, apostate Catholic system! They regarded the religion of Italy as the personality depicted in Rev. 17: 5. AD 1410, By studying Horst, Blunt, Knox, Thompson, Russell, Eberhardt, etc., it is easy to deduce that there were 30 to 40 pious Anabaptist organizations--of both national and international status--and that most yet were of Apostolic orientation. Later both Catholics and High Protestants categorized them as, Anabaptist (Wiedertaufer). Anabaptist means to re-baptize; and Apostolic Pentecostals were famous for that pious act since antiquity!
AD 1533, There were big organizations of Anti-Nicenes and Anti-Trinitarians. Some were classed as "Sabellians." Racovians (Polish Bretheren) used Christocentric language. They openly attacked and denied the Trinity. In Turkish Hungary, there were over 60 Unitarian churches with schools.
Note: Often Apostolics were thought to be Unitarians. Luther, Zwingli and Calvin hated them for that. They put Anabaptists to death for rebaptizing persons out of the Trinity.
FELIX MANTZ a glossolalist and rebaptizer, was drowned on Jan. 5 1527 in the Limmat after being condemned by Zwingli and officials at Zollikon. Calvin burned the pious Bible translator--Rev. Michael Serevetus--to death in Geneva, in 1553 for denying Rome's Trinity theory. Serevetus died in "Jesus' name;" and Calvin murdered him in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost! THE ATROCITIES OF MARTIN LUTHER. Luther hurled, "Wiedertaufer, Sacrament-schwarmer und andere Rottengeister" at Anabaptists. He imposed the Death Penalty against them! He called Apostolic preachers Winckelshcliecher. He ordered, "Cosign the scamp to the Meister Hans;" which meant Hangman! Note: Most have only heard one-sided propaganda concerning Martin Luther. Many have been misled.
AD 1762, MIRACLES at ST. MEDARD. Innumerable divine miracles frightened the French government. Parliament forbade the use of the "Secours, comme pouvant etre dangereux." The government ordered: "Do not commit Miracles here!" "De par le roi, defense a Dieu. De faire miracle en ce lieu." AD 1774, Rev. John Wesley lost 400 Methodists to Jesus Name Moravian churches in London. NOTE: many of the more pious Anabaptists who had fled to England became tongues-speaking Apostolics under one name or another.
Of the Albigensians we read...
ALBIGENSIANS: Of Albi, France. They were mostly Apostolic Christians in organizations called by this name-especially between AD 900 and 1490. Some called them Cathari.
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AD 754, On June 5th, the foul mouthed, Boniface was killed for his many atrocities against W. European people. In the 8th century- contrary to popular opinion the Romish Party was not the dominant one. It became dominant in Europe only after the AD 1233 crusades against the Apostolic Albigensians.
The name-Cathari gradually faded. Then was heard the name-ALBIGENSES. Yet later, the name-Albigensian gradually gave way to Anabaptism. Until ca. AD 1176 these were about the same doctrinally. After AD 1176 there were Protestant Trinitarians also referred to as Anabaptist. ANSELM related that much 11th century water baptism was into the Name-JESUS CHRIST. Western Europe, Eurasia, Asia, and Africa were permeated with the many similar Apostolic organizations we have mentioned. Pentecostal manifestations were integral. Archbishop Herve of Reims admitted the Catholic system could not have a synod because of the widespreadness of Apostolics. Pope Gregory VII, in 1079, asked Anselm to pray that "heretics" might be eradicated, meaning mass murdered! The Martyrs Mirror, tells much about these Apostolics from an ancient record. References concerning Apostolics turn up repeatedly in the 11th and 12th centuries. There were APOSTOLIC STRONGHOLDS or dominated regions-some were Saxony, Frisia, Flanders, Lombardy and Languedoc.
AD 1050, More than 1000 towns of Languedoc were in control of Albigensians. Most of these citizens were One God Believers; their Acts two principles were dominant there until 1233. Most of these Cathari were Pentecostal tongues-speakers and later were the, or were associated with the, PROPHETS OF THE CEVENNES. NOTE: The Cevennes were on the east side of the Albi-Toulouse region. Philip Schaff wrote about the Spirit filled tongues-speakers of the Cevennes Mountains. Blunt noted that the country controlled by the pious Albigensians was also the country of the Camisards.
NOTE: Who were these Albigensians that vain historians parroting Rome-have so slandered? These, mind you, were the same as good Americans! There were many big religious organizations of these Indo-Europeans with whole ecclesiastical systems, having schools and hospitals, in over 1000 cities. Most were pious Bible readers. Great numbers had the Holy Ghost-knowing glossolalia and the Christ water baptism. They were good citizens of elevated culture-possessing dignity and godly pride. Morally they were far above Catholic conductual-averagism.
They only wanted civil and religious freedom. For this an intolerant system martyred some of them. Most of them were of continuing Montanism, Donatism, Manichaeism and Samosatenism. Biased historians-not knowing who they were-slandered them as Bogomils, Henricians, Petrobrusians, Arnoldists, Paterini, Humilitini, etc.
Biased historians marred their image with propaganda and slander. When they were driven out, then Catholic monasteries appeared. Many fled into Moravia. Great numbers of these peoples were of Monarchianism or Patripassianism, meaning that they continued in Praxeas, Sabellius, or Noetus' type of one-Godism.
We found that most adhered to Acts 2:38 tenets.
AD 1260, Knox. p. 86 found Apostolics widespread. The number-80, 000 is associated with Bohemia alone. POTENTIAL FIGURES. How many organizations of Oneness Apostolics, etc., were there, not including Jewish or Moslem? Albigensian (Cathari) organizations were so big and widespread that the Vatican feared. Gregoire enumerated 80 non-Catholic religions. One historian figured there were 72, another 130. We can show that they temporarily stopped Vatican activity! By AD 1200 Albigensians, etc. numerically and doctrinally challenged Rome and had an estimated 4,000,000 Acts two believers. These European organizations almost put the Vatican out of business. URSINUS of ETHIOPIA, AD l284 URSINUS, an Ethiopian scholar, declared that baptism into the Name Jesus Christ, alone was valid. This indicates that Philip’s Jerusalemic doctrine had never perished from out of Africa. Later -- slaves took Acts 2:38 into the West Indies.
AD 1300-1350 The many Albigensian organizations were--by historians--starting to be referred to as Anabaptist. Before, or during the Tolosan Inquisition, many thousands of Apostolics fled from Languedoc into Moravia of Czechoslovakia. The Apostolic headquarters at Toulouse had been destroyed. Apostolic, as well organizations of anti-Trinitarian, antipedobaptist people, became amplified in Poland and Lithuania, and rejected the Trinity. The One-God people made some bishops admit that in the beginning there was only one God. By 1565, in Moravia, there were enough Apostolic (Pentecostal) to form an "International Federation of Apostolic Churches."
AD 1315. The name or word: "Apostolics." is found to have been repeatedly used by R. A. Knox, on pp. 89-110, as he referred to the Apostolic Brethren, and to Dolcino's Apostolic brethren. They were Holy Spirited tongues-speakers, and we mean to state that they were from Frisia to China. The Toulouse Inquisition merely served to further scatter Pentecostal Apostolics all over the Eastern Hemisphere. Knox, on p. 84, mentions 400,000 Manichaeans in Bohemia (Czechoslovakia) as late as 1460. Knox, on pp. 90, 91, figured that one organizations of pious Albigensians were from the Paulicians (early Armenian Samosatenes). Paul of Samosata was a Sabellian Apostolic. He saw no divisions in the Godhead. Knox; on pp. 90, 91, found these monotheistic Apostolics all over Europe!
The Apostolic History Outline is very interesting. The very historical groups that Apostolic scholars believe taught much of our doctrine often held Universalist beliefs.