Consciouness and mind

For this meetup we will discuss the phenomenon of consciousness how it relates to the physical/biological world. Is it reducible to physical brain states or is it a separate substance of some kind? If it is separate, how do these two worlds interact? If everything is physical, then how do consciousness, meaning and subjective states emerge from matter? I doubt we will successfully answer these questions (nobody has yet) but we will discuss them.

Other related questions we can discuss are:

- To what extent do our minds resemble computers? How are they different? How close can artificial intelligence get to simulating the human mind? Will there come a time when computers are conscious in the way that we are?

- What is the relationship between the mind/body dualism and free will vs. determinism?

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  • Jean S.

    I apologize that I had to be elsewhere for the day... It was my loss that I didn't get to participate.

    July 9, 2013

  • Vickie M. F.

    So, out of curiosity, how did the meeting go on Sunday (June 30th)? Was it a lively discussion? I guess that those who attended might not want to give too much away, since that might influence the "Part Two" group on July 13th -- but a few tidbits would be welcome. Thanks.

    July 1, 2013

  • Lee D.

    What fun!

    June 30, 2013

  • Heidi

    Sorry, something came up & I will not be able to make it.

    June 29, 2013

  • Jay A.

    I would very much love to participate in this discussion, but I don't know how many people will show up. Nevertheless, I am planning to attend.

    June 29, 2013

  • Sidney

    I agree with Katie that scheduling the second meetup on consciousness on the holiday meeting is not necessarily the best time. My vote would be, if at all possible, the following Sunday the 13th? Also, I would be open to speaking with you Katie about possibly co-hosting the event. No matter what, I really appreciate your openness Joe to making a second meeting happen whenever we can--thanks!

    June 28, 2013

    • Sidney

      Hi Katie- so to tell you the truth, as much as I would love to attend the meeting now on the 13th, it looks like I will have a scheduling conflict, because I already signed up and paid for a kayak trip that day. I was so hoping that we would meet on Sunday the 14th rather than Saturday the 13th, but apparently not (although I wonder if there's by place ppp

      June 29, 2013

    • Sidney

      (Disregard the musing at the end of that email)

      June 29, 2013

  • Sidney

    OOPS--sorry, that was Vickie raising the question of not meeting July 4th weekend, not Katie.

    June 28, 2013

    • Vickie M. F.

      That's okay, Sidney -- you can mistake me for Katie as long as she's a clever and likable person with a wonderful sense of humor -- which is what I aspire to be....but since I probably come up "short" on a lot of that, a mix-up might confuse people into *thinking* that I actually have those qualities. Don't mind me -- I sometimes do like to joke around a bit.

      June 29, 2013

    • Vickie M. F.

      By the way, thanks to Joe, Sidney, and Katie for being flexible about rescheduling the 2nd meet up on this topic.

      June 29, 2013

  • Joe N.

    Note: this concerns the second meeting on this topic for July - the meetup on the 30th is unchanged.

    We have rescheduled the second meeting on consciousness and mind for Sat., July 13th. We apologize to those who have already RSVP'd for July 6th, but the 13th works better for more people, including us, it turns out. If you are already signed up for the 6th and you can come on the 13th, you don't need to do anything. If you cannot make the 13th and you're signed up for the 6th, please change your RSVP to no. Again, we apologize to anyone whose plans have been disrupted by this change.

    June 28, 2013

  • Katie

    We will be changing the second meet up on this topic to july 13th (Saturday). There is already a meeting scheduled for that Sunday.

    June 28, 2013

  • Joe N.

    I know there is a long waiting list for Sunday's meetup, and we are open to having a second meetup on this topic for people who can''t go to the first one. If you want to do that, please contact me (or any of the organizers) and we will try to set something up. We are also open to people other than the organizers leading meetups for our group, but please go through one of us if you want to set that up. Thanks - we appreciate the interest.

    June 27, 2013

    • Katie

      We will be hosting a 2nd topic on this meetup on July 6th because of high demand. If you cannot attend this one due to it being full please feel free to sign up for that one. I would love if someone is willing to help me host this event. See the post here: http://www.meetup.com...­...

      June 28, 2013

    • Redwood K.

      Add me to the list for 2nd session.

      June 28, 2013

  • Vickie M. F.

    I can't make it on July 6th...I wish that the make-up were not on the holiday weekend. Does anyone else who wants to attend have commitments on the weekend of July 6th?

    June 28, 2013

  • Katie

    We will be hosting a 2nd topic on this meetup on July 6th because of high demand. If you cannot attend this one due to it being full please feel free to sign up for that one. I would love if someone is willing to help me host this event. See teh post here: http://www.meetup.com/thinkings...­

    June 28, 2013

  • Sidney

    I will offer a bribe to anyone in the 15 who are "in" to give me their spot on Sunday--only half kidding (best bid anyone? :-) ). Oh well, let me at least second and third the motions on holding this group again wherever and whoever leads it!

    June 28, 2013

  • Marie

    If this Sunday is full I'm open to another meetup date.

    June 27, 2013

  • Jyoti M.

    Yes , please clarify regarding Saturday and Venue. Do you mean June 29th, or July 6th at 2:30PM at Starbucks?

    June 27, 2013

    • Brian

      I meant it is always said that if you have a day, or a toppic, and you want to do it, then just coordinate it through one of those titled honchos. No one said anything about changing something. Just you wanted to have some overflow day.

      June 27, 2013

  • Joe N.

    The time will not change on a regular basis. If anything gets scheduled for a different time, it would be a one-time exception.

    June 27, 2013

  • Heidi

    I really like usual the 10:30am time, I hope it does not change on a regular basis.

    June 27, 2013

  • Jyoti M.

    I see there are number of people on the waiting list, is it possible to have discussion on this topic again for those who could not get on the list for June 30th. I don't know how I missed this one!

    June 27, 2013

    • Vickie M. F.

      I

      June 27, 2013

    • Vickie M. F.

      Sorry about that...hit "enter" too soon. Do you mean Saturday, July 13th? And by "the venue," do you mean the Starbucks? Please clarify.

      June 27, 2013

  • Jay A.

    I am fascinated by the concept of "Singularity" wherein humans and technological devices "merge" in someway, theoretically sometime around 2045.

    June 27, 2013

  • Vickie M. F.

    Wish that more people could attend (I just got on the waitlist). If, by chance, I get to go, could I bring my husband (he's not a member yet)? Also, I do wish (and so does he) that the Sunday morning meetings were a bit later -- we're really not "morning people."

    June 26, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Great topic!

    June 17, 2013

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We just grab a coffee and speak French. Some people have been coming every week for months... it creates a kind of warmth to the group.

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