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Lying

We'll discuss lying in public and private life--in government, medicine, law, academia, journalism, in the family and between friends, wherever the discussion goes.  We'll discuss the justifications for all kinds of lying--white lies, lies to the sick and dying, lies of parents to children, lies to enemies, lies to protect clients and peers, and the consequences of lying.

Due to strong interest in this topic, the discussion on "Lying" will repeat on Sunday December 1st.

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  • Jean S.

    Tough topic! Patty did a fabulous job of setting up the mulit-facets of the topic. Round and round the discussion went. I think that we all agree that lying is everywhere. I would imagine that each of us is far more aware of where to look for the lies in our worlds. Doctors, laywers, politicians, at work and at home. To tell or not to tell truth is the question that remains unanswered. Thanks Patty!

    1 · November 17, 2013

  • Charlotte W.

    LYING was LUSCIOUS!!!!

    Good group of people & great conversation...hated to see it end.

    At least 10 more topics came out of that group that could be
    riveting & exciting..& that's no lie!!

    1 · November 17, 2013

  • Ahngelique D.

    Sorry, too late for my change from wait list to confirmed. Please don't hold it against me:( Wish I had known earlier.

    1 · November 17, 2013

    • CJ F.

      No problem, I updated your RSVP to no so that someone else can be promoted.

      November 17, 2013

  • Deborah K.

    can't make it after all, sorry!

    November 16, 2013

  • CJ F.

    Due to the Marathon tomorrow, expect crowded conditions on public transportation and for the usual parking places to be filled. Hopefully you will get lucky on both counts. Fortunately, the group size is good and with several of our regular members signed up, it should be a great discussion (I cannot attend as I'm preparing to travel to NYC on Monday).

    November 16, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Was looking forward to joining this conversation, but I have to change my RSVP and make someone on the wait list very happy.

    November 16, 2013

  • Jean S.

    Lie of the day - It is discriminatory for a healthy person to pay less for health insurance than a unhealthy person. Then it would also be discriminatory for a good driver to pay less for car insurance than and bad driver. Is is a truth that the healthy person and the good driver must pay more?

    November 15, 2013

    • Brian

      Discrimination in the legal sense? Nope. And in what sense is a person "healthy". If they have a cancer tumor that is now just one cell. And there are no detectable effects from it yet, are they "healthy"? That is a whopping bill coming up. And the person with asthma with the inhaler who will luckily never get cancer but needs an inhaler in order to prevent catastrophic health problems in not healthy?

      November 16, 2013

    • Brian

      A healthy person is a person who will never need use of medicine, and who will live forever. They shouldn't pay anything. That is unfair.

      November 16, 2013

  • Sidney

    Ok, through my semi-delirious late night rambling, I just noticed I wrote Saturday the 24th, which of course should be the 23rd.

    November 12, 2013

    • Rita S.

      Oh, oh - is that a lie..or just a senior moment?

      November 15, 2013

  • Charlotte W.

    Lately the topics have been TERRIFIC!!

    Lying should be exceptional..

    My entire adult life I was an advertising copywriter.
    My specialty was LYING in print ads, radio commercials &
    writing brochures....

    Maybe I should say embellish or exaggerated the truth, sounds easier to digest than lying .

    However, I could sell any product..from hotels to
    politiicans! And goodness knows, ALL politicans lie.
    That could be for another day.

    1 · November 15, 2013

  • Jean S.

    I contend that lying is an integral part of social intercourse. I got a bad haircut the last time - do I tell the stylist the next time? A customer wants to come at 10 a.m. and I don't want to be dressed for business that early. A friend wants to have lunch with me and I don't care to waste my time with him. The dentist was an hour late for my appointment and I am ticked off because I will miss getting to the bank to make a deposit today. To the dismay of some I don't take phone calls at night unless it is my close family - because it is my personal downtime.

    Lying or being diplomatic goes on 24/7. I see it as playing into how we set boundaries in our lives. I don't take late appointments because I am tired and cranky in the afternoon. Would someone make the choice to risk my wrath or see me earlier in the day?

    If someone asks for your opinion, I believe it is still a matter of diplomacy of how brutally honest you are in your reply.

    November 11, 2013

    • Rita S.

      That is an honest answer.

      November 12, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I graduated from law school, so I'm an expert when it comes to lying. I'd love to join the conversation....

    November 11, 2013

    • Ahngelique D.

      lol who says that? Genius!

      November 11, 2013

    • Rita S.

      I worked for corporate lawyers in Philadelphia for almost 30 years - Jed is telling the truth.

      November 12, 2013

  • Sidney

    I had nothing to lose by making my request known, right? PS: I will also make known my offer of negotiable bribes to fearless leaders like CJ, Joe, and Patty to make this happen (ha ha, just kidding/ lying, right??)

    1 · November 12, 2013

  • Sidney

    Hugely to my dismay (and this is no lie, etc), I cannot make either of the two scheduled times for the lying meetup groups. On both Sundays I am scheduled to head out of town, for plans which cannot be changed. Under the proverbial heading of nothing to lose however, and with no intent to be selfish or self-centered about what I am about to say, I am putting out there to the universe the question of whether there's any chance at all that the second meeting scheduled to be on the 1st could instead be held on Saturday the 30th (or possibly even Saturday the 24th?). If not, I totally understand, and that's that. It's just that from so many vantage points (especially of course my personal favorite, the psychological one), and as so many of the great people who attend these groups I'm certain recognize, this is a fascinating, multi-leveled, multi-implicating topic, one that I truly hate the thought of missing. Oh well, like I said,

    1 · November 12, 2013

  • Deborah K.

    I think we need to define precisely what counts as "lying". Saying "I can't meet you at 10" when you don't feel like being dressed that early seems a very different thing than saying "No, I didn't see the bank robber" when you're under oath in court, if you really did see the robber.

    November 11, 2013

  • Andrea

    I just scheduled a December 1st meetup on the same topic, so if you are on the waiting list or if you would like to change your RSVP to that day, please do so. Contrary to our policy of opening RSVPs two weeks prior to the event, I have opened them now so that people who are on the waiting list here will be assured a spot in the next one rather than waiting until it opens and possibly missing out again.

    If you decide to come on the 1st, please remember to remove yourself from this RSVP so that the Organizers have a better idea of who will be attending. Thanks, all, and sorry for the original confusion!

    1 · November 10, 2013

  • CJ F.

    Last night Jeannie and I watched a fun film "The Invention of Lying" (2009) with Ricky Gervais. It is a fantasy and deeply addresses the subject of this topic. You can watch the film for free on-line at http://viooz.co/movies/1890-the-invention-of-lying-2009.html

    November 9, 2013

  • Deborah K.

    oh, this is getting very confusing :) was the cancelling a lie? what about the reinstating?

    November 9, 2013

  • Eric Van B.

    I'm on the waitlist. Careful if you're confirmed ....I may try to say I'm you to get in on this great discussion (these small lies never hurt anyone, right (: )

    November 9, 2013

  • Joe N.

    We have re-instated this meetup - it is on again. If you have RSVP'd yes, you are still on the list to come. Just be aware this could be a slightly larger than usual group. We will probably repeat this meetup in early December for those who are on the wait list or who are otherwise unable to attend this one. Our apologies for any confusion this may have caused.

    November 9, 2013

  • CJ F.

    Due to a Meetup system glitch, there were problems with this event's settings and attendance exceeded venue capacity. Therefore the event on "Lying" was cancelled.

    The GPTS Organizer team is trying to devise a plan to hold the discussion on "Lying" on Sun Nov 17th as originally scheduled. It may take us a few days to figure how best to reschedule the event. When a plan forward has been determined, one of us will let you know.

    I apologize for the confusion and any inconvenience.

    CJ Fearnley
    GPTS (Greater Philadelphia Thinking Society) Co-Organizer

    November 8, 2013

  • Rita S.

    Wonder if people will be honest in their comments?? Or will they lie?

    November 8, 2013

  • Betty

    looks like an interesting discussion.

    November 8, 2013

  • Charlotte W.

    Last week's discussion was the best!!!!!

    Sure LYING will be a runner up

    November 7, 2013

  • Anthony

    great topic choice! I hope I am able to make it off the waitlist.

    November 7, 2013

  • Charlotte W.

    Looking forward to another fabulous discussion.
    This topic could go on for weeks!

    November 5, 2013

  • Jean S.

    I can't wait to see where this topic goes in the discussion. It is my opinion that society cannot survive without lying.

    November 3, 2013

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