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Book Club: Kurt Vonnegut's TimeQuake -- Free Will & Other Philosophical Themes

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  • Ronald L.

    Ronald Laing

    1. Some of the DNA studies are showing that behavior is coded in our genes. If that is so, then do any of us have "Free Will'?

    2. Our justice system is predicated on the belief that people have free will and can decide whether or not to be good or bad. If they are bad, say really bad, they are sentenced to prison as punishment for the choices they made. But if they do not have free will then we are punishing them for something that they did, not because of a choice they made, but because of their genetic makeup that they have no control over. Is that just? Should we be jailing their parents, who supplied the "bad" genes instead?

    July 24, 2013

    • Tyler

      The problem is that our criminal justice system is based on culpability. We're looking at all these factors -- genetics, environment, neurobiology, etc. -- and trying to decide where to point the finger. The truth is that there's no one thing to point at. So when a man kills someone, our legal system asks, "Was he responsible?" This is the wrong question. The question should be, "What are his chances of doing it again?"

      August 3, 2013

    • Tyler

      Neuroscientist David Eagleman has a very thoughtful talk on this topic: http://www.youtube.co...­

      August 3, 2013

  • Connie

    No think for a month......bad things may happen..lol enjoy your summer break.!

    July 31, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I thoroughly enjoyed myself last night. It's so refreshing to be among people who read and write and...think about life's big and small questions. Very much looking forward to the next meetup.

    July 25, 2013

  • Connie

    Darn im not gonna be able to make tonight....argggg see you next week. ..

    July 24, 2013

    • Michael G

      Hey Connie, I think. tonight is it until Sept. Hope to see you then if not before.

      July 24, 2013

    • Connie

      Sorry I had to miss ur last night for a while. .. dont get so busy you forget to come back..see you in September. ..:-)

      July 24, 2013

  • Tyler

    First time going to this meetup. Just moved to Portland. Look forward to meeting all of you.

    July 24, 2013

  • Connie

    Darn im not gonna be able to make tonight....argggg see you next week. ..

    July 24, 2013

  • Steve S.

    I attended this very same book club 10 years ago, but it seems as though I'm going to have to do it again.

    July 23, 2013

    • Steve S.

      So Santos why aren't you attending, you'll also like my song and dance.

      July 24, 2013

  • Michael G

    If I'm gonna make it through the meeting, I'm gonna have to bring my little battery powered fan. It's not the kind that sounds like you have a hornet hovering near you. Looking forward to hearing the discussion of TimeQuake.

    July 23, 2013

  • RJ - Rene' G.

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    July 23, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Just remembered that I had a picture-postcard of Vonnegut above my desk for over 20 years...he is sitting at his typewriter in a cloud of smoke, his face framed in crazy,curly gray hair, glasses perched on the edge of his nose, looking up at the camera. He was really something...

    1 · July 20, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I thought I read everything of Vonnegut's back in college but this one is new to me. Hope the book isn't too long since I only have 3 days to read it and less than a day to think about it (smile). Look forward to meeting you.

    July 20, 2013

  • Michael G

    I gotta make the last one of the summer.

    July 19, 2013

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