SANTA CRUZ ISLAND. SCORPION CAMPGROUND / CHANNEL ISLANDS NATIONAL MARINE SANCTUA

  • July 17, 2013 · 8:00 AM

SANTA CRUZ ISLAND. SCORPION CAMPGROUND / CHANNEL ISLANDS NATIONAL MARINE SANCTUARY (http://www.nps.gov/chis/ ): BACKPACKING & KAYAK TRIP

BOAT AND CAMPGROUND RESERVATIONS CAN FILL UP FAST.

July 17-21, 2013 ( on the island July 18-20)

Location: 20 miles off the coast of Ventura, California, USA

I have been to all the Channel Islands, except this one. On this island, we can arrange for kayak rental (in advance only) and kayak through sea-life and sea caves. On my many trips along this coast, to get to islands further out, sea life has been abundant. Porpoises, seals, sea lions, pelicans, sometimes whales (though we most often see whales further out), tide pools, starfish, crabs, anemones, gulls, with cool temperatures and the stunning ocean environment. What a contrast to July in the Valley. This is a family trip. Kids and well-behaved adults are welcome.
YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY, AND YOUR OWN COSTS, and for getting to the boat on time.
Carpool/Caravan location: To be worked out in the “Comment” section, or on your own.
If you can drive/carpool please state that in the Comment section.

We will be leaving from the Phoenix area on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, to Ventura CA, and check into a motel, or you can get a campground. Early next morning we get on a boat for a ride into the Pacific Ocean to the Channel Islands National Park & Marine Sanctuary, Santa Cruz Island, about one hour away. Upon offloading on the dock at Santa Cruz Island, we will backpack one-quarter to one-half mile to the campground.

Since the backpack is short, some people bring rolling ice chests (45 lb. limit on the boat) and more well developed menus than a traditional backpack (stretching the concept of backpacking). You do not have to kayak. But if you do, be prepared for cold Pacific water, sun, waves, and (sometimes hostile) sea-life. Bring a light day bag for rain-suit, food, water, camera, sunscreen, on the day-trips. Waterproof that camera. A breathable rain suit is highly recommended, for wind, rain, and as an extra layer of clothing. There are toilets, showers, potable water, picnic tables.

I have a backpacking checklist, that I have developed, available upon request. You must bring EVERYTHING you need for your stay. There is NO store. Plan carefully.

Costs can be reduced by carpooling and sharing campsites.

ITINERARY:
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 (morning); Depart Phoenix area and drive to motel, or if you wish, a campground, in Ventura CA. (About a 7 hour drive.) Four people in a hotel room, may be as cheap as a campground. (We may then visit Channel Is. Natl. Park Visitor Center (http://www.nps.gov/chis/planyourvisit/visitorcenters.htm ), and beach with outdoor, open, shower. Dinner is on your/our own.)

Thursday, July 18, 2013 @ 6:00 a.m.; Check out of motel, and drive to boat dock, check in, load gear, and off we go for the party/boat ride to the islands.

NOTE: At this point you are on “island time”. There is no rush.
Later that day: Arrive on the island and backpack (and some will drag) gear to campsite. Set up camp. This may be a good time to relax, cook, hike, explore, coast-comb, etc.

Friday, July 19, 2013; Kayak the coastline, explore for caves and sea-life.

Saturday, July 20, 2013 (afternoon); Get on the boat, and ride back to the mainland, arriving about 8:30 p.m. I’ll probably sleep in the area and drive home the next day.

ESTIMATED COSTS (DEPENDS ON COST SHARING):
The costs VARY, depending on how many people share what.
1. Gas/Carpooling; $ 25.00 (rough guess)
2. Motel (2 nights); $40.00 (with 4 people splitting a room)
3. Restaurants (2 meals); $ 45.00 (optional)
4. Boat; $ 79.00 (adult)
5. Campground; $30.00(up to 6 people, two tents, for 2 nights)
6. Food $100.00 (rough guess, for 5 days)
7. Kayak rental or transport: $See below; I may bring my own. (25.00 for transport.
8. Kayak guide; $ (available if desired)

TOTAL ESTIMATED: $344.00

STEPS YOU SHOULD FOLLOW TO TAKE THIS TRIP:

i. ACT QUICKLY. BOAT AND CAMPGROUND RESERVATIONS CAN FILL UP FAST.
1. MAKE YOUR CAMPGROUND AND BOAT RESERVATIONS IMMEDIATELY, AND LET ME KNOW YOU HAVE DONE SO; OTHERWISE YOU MAY WELL BE REMOVED FROM THE “YES” LIST WITHOUT FURTHER NOTICE. YOU DON’T WANT TO TIE UP A SPOT AND PREVENT OTHER MEMBERS FROM BEING ABLE TO GO. The boat and campground fills up with other people.

RSVP “yes”, ASAP.

2. Make a campground reservation,or make arrangements with someone who has a campsite, (Santa Cruz, Scorpion Campground / Channel Is. Natl. Park) by calling NRRS Federal Campgrounds
Toll Free[masked], or online at: www.recreation.gov . Pay with credit card. Cost is about $ $30.00/2 nights/6 people & 2 tents max. per site.

3. Contact the boat people (Island Packers,[masked], address: 1691 Spinnaker Dr, #105B, Ventura CA 93001, and make boat reservation. Pay with Credit Card.
Tell them:
a. You want to go to Santa Cruz Island, Scorpion Campground boarding on July 18, 2013 at 9:00 a.m., and returning Saturday, July 20, at 5:00 p.m.
b. You are with David Anderson, from Mesa/Phoenix AZ, and want to be all on the same boat.
4. Rent kayaks, if you wish. Go to http://islandpackers.com/WaterSports.html, scroll to Scorpion Anchorage, East Santa Cruz Island, see three companies on the right (Aquasports, Channel Islands Outfitters, Santa Barbara Adventure.)
Please note:
Kayaking in the ocean is NOT for beginners, and is inherently dangerous. Having said that:
I question whether we need a guide. I think they stay in Scorpion Bay. We can do that.
Let’s firm this up April 20.
Let’s coordinate a kayak event for Friday, morning, fairly early, if we can, and other times if we have our own boats.

5. Make a motel or campground reservation. I may stay at Motel 6, or a campground. I’ll firm that up by April 20. Motel 6 info: [masked], 2145 Harbor Blvd., Ventura, CA 93001, USA).
Reserve for Wednesday night, and also Saturday night if you will be sleeping before driving back home.
6. Remember, it is your job to get to the boat on time. It/we will leave without you if you are not there.

WEATHER: Lows, about 55 F. Highs 85-90 F. The water is very cool (about 55 F).

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  • Rose

    It was a wonderful trip. Thanks David for posting this trip.

    July 24, 2013

  • Richard

    David I want to be just like you when I finally grow up!

    1 · July 24, 2013

  • Lynn

    Absolute amazing trip. Thanks David. Can't wait to go next year.

    1 · July 23, 2013

  • Lynn

    Thanks David for setting up a SUPER fun trip! Awesome people, amazing wildlife, incredible food, waves, caves, and paddles. I am counting the days until next year.

    1 · July 23, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Thanks for setting everything up, David. I'll hope to get back to the Channel Islands and look forward to meting up with folks from this group on the trail or water again.

    1 · July 23, 2013

  • David A.

    What a fun time. Thanks to everyone who attended. I loved the company and the amazing day of big swells in the open ocean and the foxes (except for the vicious fights) and the caves.

    1 · July 23, 2013

  • Shannon

    Had a great time! I loved looking at all the pictures that have been posted. I wish I could have meet you all at the beginning of the trip. I think i met most of you during the trip, but some not until the last day :( Very fun kayaking into sea caves and tunnels! Thanks David.

    1 · July 23, 2013

  • Lori

    Had an amazing time, thank you so much David for organizing this trip! Everyone was extremely nice and fun to be around, I enjoyed meeting all of you!

    1 · July 23, 2013

  • Arlene C.

    This is my second year attending the Channel Islands with David Anderson. What can I say?! Awesome scenery, great people, and a good time had by all. He does a fantastic job of leading these trips, and we all appreciate his time and efforts.

    1 · July 21, 2013

  • Richard

    I am staying at the Four Points by Sheraton Ventura Harbor Resort[masked] Schooner DrVentura, CA, US. They have a nice bar and a good view of the harbor and if anyone is interested in having a drink tonight before we all go on rations of peanut butter and sardines please call me at[masked] that is my cell phone

    July 17, 2013

  • Lori

    Hi all, Sheila and I were going to do a guided tour since the boat to Santa Cruz was full for kayaks. To do the tour, there has to be a minimum of two people going. That can no longer happen now that Sheila is not going. I unfortunately do not have a kayak, does anyone have a tandem that I can go on?

    July 16, 2013

    • Sheila L

      Lori elected not to meet during our scheduled time to arrange & exchange equipment decisions so Im happy to go another time when things can get worked out earlier on. Have a great time everybody and I look forward to camping and hiking & meeting everyone another time.

      July 16, 2013

    • Richard

      Yes I have a two person inflatable and I will make it available

      July 17, 2013

  • Arlene C.

    Rose and I are at site 17 if anyone wants to visit when we are there.

    July 17, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    My wife (Amy) and I will be camping at site 003. Feel free to stop by our space.

    July 16, 2013

  • Lynn

    I have 2 carpool space in my car.

    July 10, 2013

    • Sheila L

      Hi Lynn....just let Lori and I know where and what time to meet you to head out and also...do you want us to reserve another motel for the way back or do you just want to drive home that night? We are fine with either but keep us posted because we can go ahead and get another room since most of the group is staying the night AFTER the trip.

      July 14, 2013

    • Lynn

      We can leave early in the morning if ok with you and Lori. I leave 35th ave and Southern. You can park your car at my place. We will leave from my house.

      July 15, 2013

  • Sheila L

    Please give an example of "well developed " menu....is there bbq grills and WOOD available for grilling? Also, is there POTABLE water at Scorp ranch that is tasty and drinkable. I was planning on bringing my own water, I never drink out of lakes with filters etc so thats the only part of camping I dont do. Please let me know if anyone is familiar with these topics!

    July 14, 2013

    • Sheila L

      NO fires...camp stoves only? Is anyone bringing a stove? I dont mind buying an extra greenie if thats what they use...please let me know...i had my heart set on some buffalo chicken or buying some salmon burgers from costco to bring....

      July 14, 2013

    • Lori

      From Trip Advisor: The water in the campground tastes fine--no need to bring drinking water.
      TIP:
      If you can carry these, I'd definitely recommend bringing CAMP CHAIRS. There's nothing like being able to lounge under the trees with the wind blowing through the leaves and the birds singing. Bring a good book and RELAX!
      Also, BINOCULARS would have been nice, given all the animals on the island.

      July 14, 2013

  • Lori

    Just read this on Trip Advisor, though it might be helpful:

    My husband and I spent 2 nights at the Scorpion Ranch campground on Santa Cruz Island. The campsites are located about 1/4 mile to 1/2 mile from the pier. At first glance, the campground is nice. It has large campsites and lots of shade trees. The outhouses were fairly clean and well stocked with toilet paper. We soon found out that EVERYTHING must be safely stored inside of the tent or the food storage locker. There are foxes that run from campsite to campsite looking for anything that is left out. If they can't eat it, they pee on it. We had two small camp chairs next to our tent. We were standing less than 10 feet away from our chairs and a fox ran over and marked his territory on them before we even had the chance to chase it away.

    July 14, 2013

    • Lori

      The foxes also peed on our tent. We observed the foxes peeing on other campers backpacks, coolers, tents, chairs, and storage containers. If the foxes didn't get your belongings, then the ravens did. The ravens would swoop down from the trees and pick up anything that was left laying out on the table. We saw one raven open a backpack, pull out some toiletries, then fly off with something. It is very sad that the wildlife has become so accustomed to humans. The wind was quite strong at the campground. It is advisable to bring a sturdy tent with stakes. The campground was conveniently located close to hiking trails, the visitor's center, and the kayaking companies. We will not camp here again, but may try one of the other campgrounds on a different island.

      July 14, 2013

  • Patti

    Lori, Sheila, Richard...I am having to cancel the trip. My dog has been sick and the vet bills have used up pretty much all of my trip money. I will transfer the primary person on the campsite to any of you who are willing. I will need info such as phone number, address, etc. Richard has one tent spot, so if Lori and Sheila are willing the share the other spot, you're all set. My apologies for the late cancellation - wasn't expecting this, but I guess it happens. Good news is, my pooch will probably be just fine. Don't worry about the campsite fee - it's paid and on me, so have a great trip!!

    July 12, 2013

    • Lori

      Sorry to hear about your dog Patti, glad to hear he/she will be okay! Thanks for the campsite, sorry you won't be able to make it. Hope to meet you on another trip!

      July 12, 2013

    • Sheila L

      Sorry again Patti, we will all be thinking about you and your dog's health and hope for a speedy recovery. xoxo

      July 14, 2013

  • Richard

    Would someone please confirm who has which sites

    July 12, 2013

    • Richard

      That is fine but there is a limit of 2 tents per site. Are you sharing a tent?

      July 13, 2013

    • Richard

      Danuta Patti wrote: Danuta has just one tent on her site and said you are welcome to share that site with her. 

      July 13, 2013

  • Richard

    I do not care what site I have I just want to make sure I have a site for my tent. Unless I am mistaken there is a limit of 2 tents per site. Until patty dropped out I was sharing her camping site. It appears that Lori and Sheila are taking that site.

    July 12, 2013

    • Patti

      Richard-that is correct. Because Lori and Sheila are sharing equipment and they both have a tent they want a site together. Danuta has said you can share her site. This should have everyone covered. Sorry for the confusion.

      July 12, 2013

  • Richard

    Just finished kayaking the cove at La Jolla. Got live by a wave which broke one of the paddles. If anyone who was planning to use my kayak has an extra paddle please bring it

    July 11, 2013

    • Richard

      Should read flipped by a wave

      July 11, 2013

  • Danuta

    David could you send me th backpacking checklist....thanks

    July 11, 2013

    • David A.

      Hi Danuta (Dee?), the checklist is too big to paste into a meet-up email. If you'll send me your email address to [masked], I'll attach it to a regular email to you.

      July 11, 2013

  • David A.

    Three of us have rented kayaks for all 3 days.

    April 21, 2013

    • Sheila L

      Hi David, Pls email me the packing list as well

      July 8, 2013

    • Lori

      Hi David, are we all going to be kayaking as a group or separately?

      July 10, 2013

  • Lori

    David, are you planning on kayaking to the Painted Caves?

    July 10, 2013

  • Joni

    Lori, Sheila, I did not have a camp spot and did not hear that any were available when I asked. I think there are, hope you can find places. Sorry!

    July 10, 2013

    • Lori

      Thanks for letting us know Joni!

      July 10, 2013

  • Lynn

    Hi, I am sharing a camp site already. Sorry!

    July 10, 2013

    • Lori

      Lynn, sorry for the confusion, I was talking to HikerAZ, her profile says her name is also Lynn.

      July 10, 2013

  • Sheila L

    Lori, are you still wanting to share Joni's camp spot with me?

    July 8, 2013

    • Sheila L

      Joni may not be able to return calls or emails so I confirmed camping in Danuta spot so why dont you try to camp in Lynns extra spot?? I sent Lynn couple emails too. I have now my boat reservation paid for and my camping spot 19 to share with Danuta and if Lynn has extra carpool space, maybe we can ride with her. If anyone else has a carpool spot, please get in touch. Im going to be out of touch for the rest of today with no email access til the next day or so.

      July 9, 2013

    • Lori

      Okay, thanks Sheila, I just checked with Lynn about sharing her spot, I still have not heard from Joni, seems like a dead end. Do you have a kayak reserved?

      July 9, 2013

  • Lynn

    I have made camp site and boat reservation.

    April 18, 2013

    • Lynn

      I think I have a camp spot for you. I have 1 tent.

      July 7, 2013

    • Lori

      Hi Lynn, looks like two tents are allowed per camping spot, so if you don't mind me putting a tent on your spot I would really appreciate it. Let me know what half of the cost is for the space and I will give you the cash. I just need to know the site number for the boat so they will let me get on board. Thanks.

      July 9, 2013

  • Patti

    I am looking for someone to share a hotel room. Reply to the comment or email if interested.

    July 8, 2013

    • Sheila L

      yes i do, im fine with 3

      July 8, 2013

    • Lori

      Hi Patti and Sheila, that is perfectly fine with me, looks like they allow maximum four in a room. Check-in time is 3pm. It takes roughly 7 hours to get to Ventura from AZ. Maybe they might have cots as well?

      July 9, 2013

  • Sheila L

    I would also like to carpool with, message me if you have a spot open

    July 8, 2013

  • Joni

    Sheila, you can have my place, I have to cancel. I think either Danuta or Lyne have a spot for camping.

    July 7, 2013

    • Sheila L

      Im not clear on which place you have or do you want me to ask danuta or lynn? i emailed my phone number if you could call me today that would great

      July 7, 2013

  • Sheila L

    Are there any cancels or open camp sites, Im interested to go, have own gear.

    July 5, 2013

    • Danuta

      I do have a spot....someone else had asked after it before you but i heard nothing back its fine for you to stay with us.....i just need to confirm dates and amount i tjink im on sit 19

      July 7, 2013

  • Sunshine

    David: FYI: Shannon and her +1 and I have made hotel, island camp, shuttle and kayak reservations. We are good to go!! The 3 of us will be carpooling, hoteling, and camping on the island together. Looking forward to this one!!!!!!

    April 23, 2013

    • Sunshine

      Note: There are now 4 of us! My boyfriend Gustav is coming and I was able to +1 him here on the site.

      July 5, 2013

  • Lori

    Danuta and Lyne, I would love to camp on either of your sites, I have to let the boat company know a site# and confirmation# before the trip. So if one of you would be able to send that info over to me at: [masked] that would be great. Thanks!!

    July 2, 2013

  • Lori

    Hi everyone, I have made my boat reservations and plan to do a kayaking tour (since rentals are no longer an option, the boat is at maximum capacity) if anyone wants to join. I am either doing the Sea Caves of Coche Point & Potato Harbor Tour (5 hours) or the
    Painted Cave Kayaking (2.5 hours). The website link to take a look at the tours is here: http://www.channelislandso.com/painted-cave-kayaking.php#.UbDKOuuyU2U

    Let me know if anyone wants to join!

    July 2, 2013

  • Lori

    Does anyone have an extra spot on their site? I went to make a reservation for a campsite and there are no available campsites:(

    June 30, 2013

    • Danuta

      Sorry to get back to you so late....yes I have space for another tent.

      June 30, 2013

  • Richard

    I will leave my 2 person kayak on the beach I will probably only use it 1 or 2 hours each day so any and all that wish to use can.

    I am just wondering if anyone has a list of recommended food items to buy and take that do not require refrigeration? This may be a good opportunity to drop a few pounds!

    I am booked and paid for the 9am boat July 18 returning 5pm July 20th. Unless something has changed, I will set up my tent on Patti's site.

    1 · June 29, 2013

    • Lori

      I have a Jet Boil, I like couscous, you just have to add water and let it sit for five minutes. Fruit doesn't do too badly, Backbacker's Pantry dehydrated meals (can get at REI) is really good. Trader Joe's has dehydrated fruit and trailmix for snacks. Raw vegetables such as baby carrots.

      June 30, 2013

  • Joni

    I almost forgot to check this. Does anyone have a campsite that can fit one more tent?

    June 22, 2013

    • Lori

      Joni, did you end up reserving a campsite or are you still looking to share a site?

      June 30, 2013

  • Richard

    I am wondering if it would be possible to coordinate who is bringing what such as propane stove/grill as to avoid unnecessary duplication?

    June 30, 2013

  • Richard

    I am bringing a two person heavy duty inflatable kayak

    May 13, 2013

    • Lori

      Hi Richard, do you already have a second party for your kayak?

      June 21, 2013

    • Richard

      Anyone and everyone will be able to use it I will only use it one or 2 hours a day

      1 · June 23, 2013

  • Danuta

    The campsite and boat reservations are complete. I am only lacking the kayaks. I was not sure if I must book a tour with one of the groups or bring my own kayak. It sounds like you must rent then carry on the boat across. If that is the case and the group is not touring then how many days should kayak be rented?

    I have only one tent on my site with two people in case someone needs a site.

    May 13, 2013

    • David A.

      Hi Danuta, I was told by one former attendee that the boat has all the kayaks it can carry. One of the three kayak rent companies keeps kayaks on the island and only provides guided tours. You may want to look into that. I have rented kayak for all 3 days without a guide. Dierdre had the same situation. You may want to coordinate with her.

      May 13, 2013

    • Lori

      Hi Danuta, do you still have space on your campsite?

      June 21, 2013

  • Patti

    David do you still have the backpacking checklist you could email to me? Thanks!

    June 21, 2013

    • David A.

      Yes, Patti, I emailed it to you. See you soon.

      June 21, 2013

  • Deirdre

    I had to cancel on this trip but will hold my boat reservations for a couple of days in case someone going needs them. Please contact me directly by Friday if you want me to try to transfer my boat reservations to you.

    June 5, 2013

    • Danuta

      Did you by chance fa

      June 6, 2013

    • Danuta

      Did you by chance have a kayak reservation too? I have the boat reservation thank you

      June 6, 2013

  • Rose

    I have made boat reservation and share the campsite with Arlene.

    May 12, 2013

  • Deirdre

    David, I have lake kayaked once (Lake Nicaragua) but never ocean kayaked so I don't know whether I can handle it. Thoughts?

    April 17, 2013

    • David A.

      Hi Deirdre. This is not a beginner kayak event. This ocean environment can have high wind, fast current, boiling turbulence and eddys, and hostile sea-life. On the other hand, guides take beginners in stable sit-on-top kayaks to some areas. I suggest you contact the guided-kayak-tour company (one of the 3 kayak vendors) and talk to them. I suspect you'll find it very enjoyable. Let us know what you find out.

      May 8, 2013

  • Rose

    @Arlene,
    Do you reserve the campsite? I would like to share with you.

    April 14, 2013

    • Rose

      Thanks. Another wonderful trip.

      April 19, 2013

    • Sunshine

      I have site 18 - we are neighbors!

      April 23, 2013

  • David A.

    Three of us have reserved kayaks for all three days from Channel Island Kayak Center [masked]). If you are only renting for one day, you may consider renting for Friday. But do whatever you want to do.

    April 23, 2013

  • Deirdre

    Before I make my own campsite reservation, just checking to see if anyone has space in an existing reservation to share.

    April 17, 2013

    • Deirdre

      Great, I will join you. Thanks.

      April 21, 2013

    • Deirdre

      Did I meet you on the Ballentine Trail hike yesterday?

      April 21, 2013

  • David A.

    We'll get on the boat at 9:00 a.m. Thurs. And back on to come home at 5:00 p.m. Saturday. Thanks Patti.

    April 13, 2013

    • Deirdre

      Hi David. Please note question I asked you above. Deirdre

      April 21, 2013

  • Danuta

    I have site 19 reserved do you need the confirmation #

    April 16, 2013

  • Patti

    For anyone who wants to make boat reservations online, here is the address. https://reserve.islandpackers.com/

    April 15, 2013

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