Re: [ronpaul-529] Romney gone time to focus

From: Steve H.
Sent on: Thursday, November 8, 2012 12:49 PM
Lynda -sorry about your loss. It's tough to lose a parent; however, I think you can shrink Medicare significantly by reducing fraud and waste and cutting back on certain discretionery non-essential items. (bot sure what these are because I am no expert on medicare)  There will have to be limits and changes. No country has the resources for unlimited care , without restrictions, for everyone. That is just a sad reality of life. 
 
Steve Heath


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From: Lynda <[address removed]> 
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Subject: Re: [ronpaul-529] Romney gone time to focus

PirateRothbard,

As someone who just buried a parent two weekends ago, I find that closing sentence "...shrinking Medicare because the costs are exploding and so much goes to people with only a few months to live" extremely disheartening,  disturbing, disgusting, and uncompassionate to say the least.

You did not comment on the fact that Medicare & Social Security are being used by the feds as the nation's catcha piggy bank. Nor did you comment as to the burgeoning pressure of payments to providers on behalf of people who are not here legally. Nor did you comment on scammers who collect Medicare, SS or Medicaid claiming some sort of disability but are in fact able bodied.

I would think that most people here on this list wouldn't have a problem tending to the truly incapacitated, infirm and elderly, in the way for which they or their legal guardians would have them attended.  I could be wrong...

I sure hope you & everyone in your family is in perfect health now and in the times to come. You know what they say about karma or payback... if not, God (or whatever divinity you esteem) have mercy on you and yours' souls.

On Nov 8,[masked]:02 PM, "PirateRothbard" <[address removed]> wrote:
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> A lot of good targets for the freedom movement. My favorite is shrinking Medicare because the costs are exploding and so much money goes to people with a few months to live.
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> On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Sean Lyons <[address removed]> wrote:
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>> I agree,  increase producers and remove the non-productive government suckers. The non-productive government is a big fat tax on the producers. Regulations by their nature reduce productivity taking labor away from productive pursuits.
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>> On Nov 8,[masked]:37 AM, "Steve Heath" <[address removed]> wrote:
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>>> Right on Sean  -get rid of crony capitalism, and it's effects like outrageous overpriced healthcare costs, outrageous overpriced broken education, excessive taxation at all levels of government, outrageous overpaid government workers  -too many of which do little or nothing, and whose job it is too protect big business monopolies by strangling and destroying small businesses through excessive, destructive regulation   --get rid of these costs, and perhaps we could afford a little austerity. For now, too many Americans can barely get by, are saddled with overwhelming debt, as the last 20 years have a seen a return to feudalism with wage increases being replaced by credit limit increases, as the speculator ruling class gets obscenely richer exporting our jobs overseas and financial speculation. This country is heading towards an Arab Spring and riots in the streets if the blood sucking class of elites does not ease up from their predator vulture capitalistic practices which like the great vampire squid Goldman Sachs, are sucking the lifeblood out of humanity. When the elites destroy jobs, capital, savings and opportunity, the alternative is too often crime or welfare or starvation. If the elites will quit destroying freedom and capitalism, the 47% will have a better opportunity to make an honest living.
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>>> Original message
>>> From: "Sean Lyons"  
>>> To: [address removed]
>>> Received: 11/8/2012 2:20:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [ronpaul-529] Romney gone time to focus
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>>> David,
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>>> Instead of focusing on a austerity agenda focus your attention to our trade policy to increase our producers here in America. Having more folks paying into the system is the best solution in the long term period... Sacrificing Americans living standards in lieu of addressing the root, the so called free trade that is anything but free. 
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>>> While your at it in your next campaign embrace liberty and your party may have a chance to win. This is all the party leaders failed calculus.
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>>> On Nov 8,[masked]:28 AM, "David Ray" <[address removed]> wrote:
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>>>> Shirley, I believe last tuesday night America became ancient Rome. The people on entitlements now or will very soon outnumber the folks paying the entitlements(tax Payers). And like Rome taxes will have to be constantly increased to pay for these people. And just like in Rome when our tax rate is through the roof and we go off that cliff Christians will revolt. It will be a hard and bloody battle i fear but Christians win in the end. I just wonder where "BRUTUS" is today! lol 
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>>>> --- On Wed, 11/7/12, shirley Kinder <[address removed]> wrote:
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>>>>> From: shirley Kinder <[address removed]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ronpaul-529] Romney gone time to focus
>>>>> To: [address removed]
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, November 7, 2012, 8:07 AM
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>>>>> I agree...the Republican Party got what it deserved, but ......  I just hope that Obama does not take our freedoms and ruin our economy even more that You guys do Not have to take to the street (I’m too old) to HAVE the chance to accomplish the good that we have all worked for. 
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>>>>> From: Sean Lyons
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 07,[masked]:52 AM
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>>>>> Subject: [ronpaul-529] Romney gone time to focus
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>>>>> Dear Freedom Lovers,
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>>>>> Now that Romney is gone we can focus on our real agenda, liberty,  freedom & justice for all. I know, some of you can't see it right now, but Obama for four more  is better than the possibility of Romney for eight. We have to stay vigilant and fight for our liberty. The Republican party got what they deserved. They disenfranchised the liberty movement out of the race and lost because of it. Many will not see this as a victory but it is. The establishment made a large miscalculation, they thought they could get us to line up behind their neocon puppet. However, they now know we won't budge and get behind  their bullshit candidates who don't meet our standards.
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>>>>> After the next four years of Obama and the Democrats, they will be shown as inept big government frauds. The Republicans party  had better get inline with liberty or parish.
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>>>>> God Bless America...
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