Valley Gun Group

Personal Protection at SEVRAR need your help!

December 13, 2012 · 1:00 PM
SEVRAR Conference Center

We need your help, please schedule this, and show up. Herchel Spears with SEVRAR is trying to elimate the language at SEVRAR preventing personal protection. Do not OPEN CARRY! We need facts, comments, attendance, and membership to help promote the cause. The vote will take place on this date so your voice needs to be heard. Please share this will anyone associated with the Real Estate industry. Anyone who Realtors want to do business with or people that can help Realtors. Mortgage lenders, Insurance Agents, Title Reps, Realtors, Plumbers, Handyman, Contractors, Electircians, Inspectors, any member of SEVRAR (South East Valley Regional Association of Realtors)

If you want to be a member of SEVRAR and learn more about protecting your industry and gaining new business ideas and techniques please call Hercel Spears at [masked] as he can walk you through membership and when the next meeting is.

The Anti Gun people will be bringing as many people as they can. We are stronger than this and we need the help. If you are considering buying a home but want a gun rights Realtor please join us!

Public remarks are from 1-1:30pm.

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Rod Rebello

Am I misunderstanding this? The policy against firearms appears to only be in reference to SEVRAR meetings and functions. This would not for example, prevent a Realtor from carrying while showing homes or anywhere else outside of a SEVRAR sponsored event, correct?

0 · November 15
- Hercel Spears
  
  Correct.
  
  0 · November 15
A former member

They always want to restrict gun use. Its sad people think they can violate the bill of rights. Best of luck to all of you.

0 · November 14
james wilson

Why would SEVRAR think that they can prevent me from a God given right ??? I will be there to comment. We work with strangers in the public place and I always carry.

0 · November 4
- Jayson Hoffer 480-518-0747
  
  James I would love it if you RSVP please
  
  0 · November 4
- Hercel Spears
  
  Hey James, thanks for chiming in. The restriction that I would like to see go away is only at SEVRAR. Another security "expert" said that in most cases around the country it is a don't ask don't tell policy and it seems to work well. In other words, they don't say one way or the other on restricting carry, or how one might be allowed under certain circumstances to carry. This is why I made the motion to take the language out of policy. For the past several years, this has, in effect, been the way things have been handled as there was no "notification" posted so even though it was in the bylaws, without posting no legal notification was provided to members. No surprise to you or other knowledgeable members of this group, there have been NO issues during this time. Please feel free to call me before the meeting to discuss further. [masked]
  
  0 · November 5
Tony Brenke

I do not see this listed in the proposed by law changes doc.
http://www.sevrar.com/docs/pdfs... is there another one I should be looking at?

0 · November 1
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- Hercel Spears
  
  Hi Tony. Right now there is language in the Policy manual that states only "paid security guards and law enforcement officers can carry self defense items. I am proposing this language be removed from the bylaws. This is the recommendation of the policy task force but will be voted on by the Board of Directors Dec. 13, 2012 at that month's Board of Directors meeting. If you have any questions, please feel free to call me. [masked]
  
  0 · November 2
- Hercel Spears
  
  should have said policy instead of by-laws
  
  0 · November 2
- Tony Brenke
  
  Thanks Hercel, that makes more sense. The vote and comments on this will be at the Dec 13 meeting. I would be happy to show up and comment but I have nothing to do with this industry. Would that matter?
  
  0 · November 2
- Hercel Spears
  
  If your background would give you standing as an expert, ie law enforcement etc. then yes.
  
  0 · November 2
DAVID O'DELL

I would like more info on this ! I have severl in my house and will use if I need to!

0 · November 2
- Jayson Hoffer 480-518-0747
  
  this is mostly for the real estate industry or anyone who works with Realtors.
  
  0 · November 2

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This group will be focusing on understanding guns in the household. I want to have speakers come out and help our members considering purchasing a new gun, getting a permit, and carrying concealed. With crime up, and resources down. I want to make sure people are well aware of their surroundings. I also would like to help people find a business that will sell what we need at a good price. With this group growing I would like to be able to negotiate better prices.

My first task is gaining some members who want to learn more about guns. Guns are not toys, kids should not have access to them, until they know how to use them with parental supervision.

We will be going to the range as a group, I plan on having one experienced shooter share a range with a beginner, this saves cost, and each member can learn and refresh their skills.

As a group, some members will have a gun others will not have. We can essentially rent that gun and pay that member for the ammo used. Of course the gun owner will help the member who wants to shoot it. We can play with this however you want to set it up.

Disgussing what steps are needed and proper places to obtain your Concealed Weapons Permit.

I also run
http://www.meetup.com/valleymoviegroup/
http://www.meetup.com/valleyevents/
http://www.meetup.com/Valley-Movie-Group-Peoria/

Learn Gun Safety, understand the reason why to carry a gun, understand where we can not go. I want to make sure we all have the fundamentals down. I am gearing this towards people that are new to guns. We can practice shoot a few guns if anyone wants to offer theirs. I understand with ammo in such high demand that members should pay for the rounds if they shoot someone else's gun.

Ex. For those that do not know, it is extremely challenging to find good ammunition today. Wal-Mart is usually sold out of the normal calibers that most people shoot with.

Understand the liability that is also exposed by carrying a gun or having one in the household or on your person.

Understand how your home insurance policy will cover guns. (most companies only allow up to $2500 max towards guns)

Understand, carrying a gun in your vehicle is legal without a permit. What steps to take if you are pulled over. Keep the gun in plain sight. Give the officer the safety he/she deserves.
Many motorcyclists carry a firearm from what I understand so they need to know the full abilities and laws. Business owners who carry cash or other valuables, maybe they have a storefront that they want to protect.

Movie lovers may want to learn the real effects of what a gun can or can not do. Such as James Bond and his little pea shooter will not accurately hit anything from the distance he shoots from in several scenes.

Womens social groups may like the knowledge of gun ownership. I just recently had a client have her home invaded by three thugs. They broke into her home, beat her and her nephew up. There was blood all over the living room. If she would of had a firearm handy she might have made it without the after effects. I understand there is always a devils advocate. Having the knowledge will let you decide how you want to proceed.

Jayson Hoffer
480-518-0747