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Don't Buy This Book! The Vegetarian Myth Book Discussion Group

Some books are just so misguided and poorly researched that they must be read by those the author attacks. Lierre Keith's The Vegetarian Myth is one of them. A supposed 20 year vegan who now suffers health consequences because of it, Keith makes the argument that a omnivorous diet, not veganism, is better for the animals and the environment. But although her arguments are fallacious, people are buying into the myths Keith peddles, which is why every vegan activist should know this book and be prepared to discuss its shortcomings.

Of course, we don't want anyone buying the book and padding Keith's bank account (she might not want want that either since she is an anarcho-primitivist). For a free copy of the book, contact Kim Socha at [masked].

*** Please take notes as you're reading and come prepared to share. This book discussion will stay focused on The Vegetarian Myth with minimal side bar conversations so that we can respect everyone in the group and their goal of discussing The Vegetarian Myth. 


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  • Dan K

    Here is the amazon review with the references breakdown: http://www.meetup.com/vegan-415/events/188090322/

    My memory was wrong -- it looks like the 30% is the % of the references which are websites. 5 were from wikipedia. 1 from google answers.

    July 14, 2014

  • Damian Pound (.

    I had a lot of stuff I wanted to say, but figured I would wait for everyone else to have their say first because I was constantly getting new ideas of things to talk about as others talked, unfortunately I didn't say much of anything because of that... Aw well, I'd probably spend an hour talking if allowed and this way lets me better present my thoughts. Anyway, here it is: http://members.thebestisp.com/~damian/linked/vegetarian_myth_discussion_thoughts.txt

    July 15, 2014

    • Damian Pound (.

      I decided to HTMLify it after the fact, so it has been renamed, fortunately the webserver also checks for the requested filename with ".html" appended, so the previous link still works!

      July 15, 2014

  • Kim

    Hi, everyone. After reading the book, it may be interesting to read this short rebuttal of some of her main arguments: https://www.indybay.org/uploads/2010/03/15/correcting_the_vegetarian_myth.pdf

    1 · July 14, 2014

  • Damian Pound (.

    Btw, once I'm done with the book, I'll put my notes up somewhere for people to look at before the meetup. I encourage others to do the same, then we can talk more about the stuff that really bugs us :D

    July 11, 2014

  • Damian Pound (.

    I decided to note some things that annoyed me, I started this on page 8 and I'm only page 11, I already have 4 things.
    Annoyances: Not processing cellulose means automatic carnivore, being veg*n is necessarily part of your identity, a low fat vegan diet will damage your body, and no good source of tryptophan from plants.
    Like I told someone on Youtube, if you're going to argue something, at least verify that you're right...

    1 · July 11, 2014

  • Kate M.

    Hi! I just joined this group and while I cannot attend the book discussion, I would like to read it. Will the discussion be recorded in any form to listen on my own time? I also tried emailing Kim at the above address and it did not go through. Is there a different email I can try? Thanks!
    Kate :)

    July 5, 2014

    • Dallas R.

      Make sure everyone agrees to that before recording, please!

      1 · July 7, 2014

    • Damian Pound (.

      Oh sure, sadly I hadn't thought about that :/
      We can all edit it together :D

      July 7, 2014

  • Damian Pound (.

    Realized that I had RSVP'd for a PHP event at the exact same time, decided to drop out of it :(

    July 2, 2014

  • Stef

    I can't attend the conversation, but would love to read the book so that I can be prepared to discuss it should someone who questions veganism asks me about it. Are you able to send me a copy? Can notes from the conversation at the library be posted here? Could we do a virtual book club for those that can't attend on the 14th?

    June 21, 2014

    • Kim

      Hi, Stef. Please email me at [masked], and I will send you a copy of the book.

      July 2, 2014

    • Stef

      Thanks! I just sent you an email; please let me know if you don't receive it.

      July 2, 2014

  • Tamer

    Well, honestly, I have not read the book before, can I still come and see the discussion? I also do not know know if I may buy the book, however, I am still interested to know more about the veganism.

    June 30, 2014

    • Kim

      Hi, Tamer. It is okay to come buy even if you haven't read the book. However, note that you can get a free copy by emailing me at [masked]. Hope to see you there!

      July 2, 2014

    • Dallas R.

      Also note, Tamer, this book is not about veganism in the way we usually promote it. This book is an argument AGAINST veganism, and it was chosen to critique. We also ask that if people who have not read the book come to the event that they primarily listen so as to respect the people who did read the book and want to discuss the book. We have had issues in the past where people who have not read the book came to discussions and the people who did want to discuss the book weren't able to, and they were, understandably upset.

      July 2, 2014

  • Damian Pound (.

    Just reserved it at the library (http://hclib.org/), all 5 copies were not checked out :D

    June 30, 2014

    • Damian Pound (.

      Speaking of which, when is that video link coming?

      July 1, 2014

    • Tamer

      For any other meeting, I am going to focus just only on the subject of veganism. If someone wants to talk about anything else, I will ask this person to set a time to meet after. Damian, I have already emailed you either here or via your other email.

      July 1, 2014

  • Phil

    I have seen her videos on youtube and she is a total fraud! She says things like I was a vegan but drank milk and ate eggs whenever I could and that she was essentially forced into veganism...blah blah blah. Sounds like an interesting discussion will see if i can make it.

    June 21, 2014

  • Michael

    But can there really be any doubt the vegetarian diet is superior? When a person understands diet form the spiritual perspective, all other arguments become mute… the vegetarian diet has been around for thousands of years. Somewhere along the way we lost the message, our connection with nature and animals. Take a walk though the hospitals and ask patients about their diet, or ask a middle aged co-work about their health and they can talk for hours about their ailments.

    June 21, 2014

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