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Re: [vegetarian-515] Saturday Meeting

From: Melissa B.
Sent on: Saturday, April 28, 2012 8:49 AM
I'm curious as to what legitimate source people are looking to to determine that pit bulls have been bred to be violent.  Is this something that people actually know as fact, or just something we hear and believe?

Of course this story is terrifying to the mothers in the room, and to any of us with any feeling.  But unless people feel the same way about rottweilers, German shepherds, and all the other dogs who have taken their turn being evil and vicious in the eyes of society merely because they are *capable* of being aggressive, then we may want to take a closer look at our beliefs and where they're coming from.

I'm going to suggest that the dog who actually broke away from its owner and ran down the street to attack an unknown child was acting remarkably for any dog breed, and that it is highly likely that that particular dog was not being raised appropriately.

On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 7:04 AM, mary beth <[address removed]> wrote:
I have a pit bull who is a sweet dog. This is ridiculous!!!!  Please take me off this list. 

Mary Beth

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On Apr 27, 2012, at 11:03 PM, "Erin L." <[address removed]> wrote:



The problem is NOT simply one of "bad owners." Pit bull breeds were originally created for fighting purposes. Do we ever look at a greyhound with surprise when it runs fast? If you've ever been around border collies or other herding dogs, you know they herd even without training. It's in their genes. So it stands to reason that dogs bred for tenacity and aggression -- such as pit bulls -- will sometimes show those behaviors regardless of upbringing. Combine this fact with the mental instability that often results from inbreeding to create "pure bred" dogs, and voilà, you have children being mauled by pets that showed no previous signs of aggression.

Of course there are pit bulls that are sweet, but it is ridiculous to give one the benefit of the doubt around a child. Those that turn out to be vicious (surprise!) are simply too lethal. There have been enough stories for us to know better. Lyric was fortunate to get away with her life, and thank goodness there were adults around to save her. 

We have to get real about the nature of aggressive dog breeds. We can't simply raise them with kindness as an antidote to their genes. 


On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Lynn <[address removed]> wrote:
I hope you'll also include something about not ALL pitbulls being vicious like that one. The problem with them is usually the owner, not the dog.
 
Lynn
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 4/27/2012 1:43:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [address removed] writes:

Dear Friends,

If you read this morning's paper you would have seen the article on page one on the brave little girl, Lyric Jones, who recently survived a vicious pit bull attack.  The dog broke away from his owner and chased little Lyric until he pounced on her and bit her repeatedly around the arms, breaking one of them.  To save little Lyric, the dog was beaten to death by people who ran to her aid.  The terrified second-grader required 100 stiches.

To help comfort Lyric, we will be delivering baskets of stuffed toys, chocolates and flowers to her on Saturday afternoon.  If you would like to contribute to our gift-giving effort, please drop of your gifts to Mojo's Cafe on Saturday, April 28th, which is on the corner of Race and Magazine, between 12: 00 and 12: 45.  We will also have stacks of materials that needed to be distributed around town for NOLA Veg Fest, in case you would like to pass them out to your family and friends.

 

Many thanks,

 

Jeff

 





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