Re: [atheists-494] Working with the Reality-Challenged

From: Lisa D.
Sent on: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:29 AM
Craziness can be in the eye of the beholder. As I over the last 20 plus years have changed from an extremely devout essentially happy Mormon to an atheist I can have conflicting thoughts regarding others  religiosity. They are deluded. How can someone believe those myths....etc to I understand the effects of religious community and personal faith along with wanting so badly to share with everyone. You want everyone to have what you have because you believe it to be true. You feel like it is your duty to do so.of course many are obnoxious about it I'm sure I was during my most fervent days. I offended many and did not understand why they were offended.

So it helps to try and understand this persons point of view unless he is truly crazy and wants everyone else dead.

There are many skilled honest intelligent people who are religious and some are more respectful of boundaries than others. Or maybe I haven't become brave enough to tell them I think they are deluded.

Respect and balance is important.

Lisa Done

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On Feb 26, 2013, at 10:58 PM, Francisco <[address removed]> wrote:

> Some of what I hear is how to respond to the "outrage" of his quoted statements. In this context a mass mailing. Not really worth a response. Put it in your circular file. Then as Stan says it depends on how much you expected a partnership and how close this project is to you. 
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> Francisco
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> On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Reverend Stevo <[address removed]> wrote:
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>> Hello everyone, just wanted to reach out to my atheist support group with a quandary I've been puzzling over.
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>> Do you let a person's "religiosity" influence whether or not you're going to work with them?  This is not a legal question; this is an ethical/practical issue.
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>> I was approached by an individual who was interested in providing a professional service for a project I'm working on.  Initially, I was very impressed by his approach, expertise, and qualifications.  He was incredibly nice and helpful, and seemed like he'd be awesome to work with. I was pretty comfortable with the idea of offering some sort of partnership to him.
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>> Then I got a "Merry Christmas" mass email that he sent out to his friends & family.  It was sort of a "hey, heres what my family is doing" kind of thing, that is usually accomplished through a christmas card, covered with nauseatingly cute pictures of rosy-cheeked offspring.
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>> Turns out he's heavily involved with missionary activities in Africa, and is big into "the church life".  The religiosity worked itself up to a frenzy by the end, culminating with:
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>> """
>> Reckon his power to enable you to help continue telling the stories of God's amazing work in the world and helping equip and educate people for mission work.
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>> We are undertaking an impossible task made possible by God's will for his people. Join us in completing the task.
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>> Till Every Tribe, Tongue and Nation worships God,
>> (name withheld)
>> """
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>> By Odin's hairy pair!  This freaked me the fuck out.  That signoff felt like a THREAT.  I immediately decided that I didn't want to work with him.  I didn't tell him, I just never reached out to get him involved in the project.
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>> Several months later, and I'm looking for someone to provide the service that he does, and I'm having no success.  Out of a dozen or so possible candidates, he's the only one who really grokked the project and knew exactly what to do with it.  I'm now wondering if I made the right decision.  Am I being irrationally prejudiced?  By rejecting someone based on their irrational beliefs, am I any better than they are?  Is my concern that someone that crazy, can't be trusted to make sane business decisions, just a hollow rationalization?
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>> Have you had any experiences like this?  How did you deal with it?
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>> Till Every Tribe, Tongue, and Nation worships Bacon,
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>> sd
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