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Re: [web-99] Need Advice About Wordpress Install

From: Harold J. J.
Sent on: Friday, February 3, 2012 9:38 AM
That's exactly the case with my client (and friend). In the end, I
realized the best result was to let her make and learn from her own
mistakes.

Lesson learned by myself as well: It's sometimes more difficult to
work for a friend or family member.

--Harold

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Eric Lewis <[address removed]> wrote:
> You might look at Joomla, IF you can be flexible in your CMS. Joomla would
> be more configurable with an e-commerce solution. However, your also back to
> your php issues, since you really need the latest version. Unfortunately,
> that may the case with all CMS.
>
> The newest version of Joomla (2.5.1) now has multi DB support, but it is
> VERY new (released in the last 48 hours) and not as robust as it will become
> soon I hope.
>
> It is frustrating when clients won't move away from a host. Your hands are
> just tied in that event. The best you can hope for is that they realize that
> they are imposing limitations on you that prevent the best possible outcome.
>
> Good luck with the project though.
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:28 PM, Jonathan Wright <[address removed]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Yep. Client doesn't want to move to new host. But I don't blame them,
>> since I told them to upgrade their account with Brinkster, which should have
>> been the end of the problems. But now here we are, my client is less 200
>> dollars more, and doesn't want a new host. Lesson learned for me. Next
>> client, I will absolutely just get them Hostgator, which is an excellent
>> host, and guaranteed latest PHP and Mysql.
>>
>> Wordpress.com is one route, but this is more of an e-commerce site than a
>> blog, and from what I hear, there isn't much flexibility with wordpress.com
>> for something like e-commerce.
>>
>> jon
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Harold J. Johnson
>> <[address removed]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jonathan already stated he's stuck with Brinkster. I had an experience
>>> working with a client recently who was too stubborn to move her
>>> website or blog to a decent web host, so we couldn't get a WordPress
>>> installation going. In our case, it wasn't a problem getting WordPress
>>> installed but it was a problem because the domain she wanted to use
>>> for the blog was already attached to another host (and we couldn't
>>> redirect it transferring the domain, and she didn't want to do that).
>>>
>>> I don't know if you're in a similar situation, Jonathan, but you might
>>> want to consider hosting the blog at wordpress.com until your client
>>> realizes they really need a new web host.
>>>
>>> --Harold
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Eric Lewis <[address removed]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Why not move away from Brinkster? If they aren't keeping php up to
>>> > date,
>>> > what else are they not updating. Even if you could update WP, a host
>>> > like
>>> > that is eventually going to leave a hole open and get you hacked.
>>> >
>>> > As to permissions, see if they can run php through cgi. That seems
>>> > to alleviate permiss­ion problems.
>>> >
>>> > Eric
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Jonathan Wright
>>> > <[address removed]>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Web Developers,
>>> >>
>>> >> I am trying to get Wordpress up and running on a client's server.
>>> >> My client's web host is Brinkster, which is a less than perfect host
>>> >> for
>>> >> Wordpress,
>>> >> but I won't delve into why I am stuck with them.
>>> >>
>>> >> I have run through the Wordpress installation a dozen times, so I have
>>> >> no
>>> >> issues with WP per say. But Brinkster does not have a one-click
>>> >> install for
>>> >> Wordpress.
>>> >>
>>> >> On my first install, my issues were file permissions and permalinks.
>>> >> Then
>>> >> WP asked me to update to WP 3.3.1. Then everything crashed : (
>>> >> Brinkster support recommended that if I ever update Wordpress, I'll
>>> >> need
>>> >> to do it manually. (sigh)
>>> >>
>>> >> I then had Brinkster move my client from Windows / IIS 6 over to Linux
>>> >> /
>>> >> Apache 2. (Filezilla uses Linux and I like Filezilla, plus I get
>>> >> Apache's
>>> >> mod URL rewrite for permalinks )
>>> >>
>>> >> To make a long story short, on my 4th or 5th run of manually
>>> >> installing
>>> >> WP, I received this message:
>>> >>
>>> >> "Your server is running PHP version 5.2.3 but WordPress 3.3.1 requires
>>> >> at
>>> >> least 5.2.4"
>>> >>
>>> >> When I asked Brinkster, they said "Well we do not have a Linux server
>>> >> with
>>> >> that PHP version, but we could move you to a Windows Server." Been
>>> >> there
>>> >> done that.
>>> >>
>>> >> So finally, here are my 2 choices:
>>> >>
>>> >> 1. Continue to enjoy the benefits of a Linux / Apache server, but run
>>> >> an
>>> >> older version of Wordpress (WP says earlier releases are less safe)
>>> >> 2. Or move to a Windows / IIS 6 server, and lose the benefit of Apache
>>> >> goodies like pretty permlinks, .htaccess files
>>> >>
>>> >> Either way, I will probably have to update Wordpress manually every
>>> >> time a
>>> >> new version comes out.
>>> >>
>>> >> Which option do you think I should go with, 1 or 2?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for your input.
>>> >> Jonathan Wright
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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