Re: [web-99] Need Advice About Wordpress Install

From: Scott S
Sent on: Friday, February 3, 2012 9:39 AM
I'm new here. One thing that I think is not totally clear but where most of you have misread in Jason's post, is that he is stuck with Brinkster
because HE RECOMMENDED Brinkster in the first place and has already charged the client for that hosting. Not because the client is being stubborn. 

Jason, Correct me if I am wrong about that assumption.  I know you don't know me from Adam, but if it is any help to you I have an unlimited domains account at Dreamhost,(which has its issues, but whom I have been with for 5 years and really love). I would be willing to help you by providing you with free hosting on my account. You are probably wondering why I would do that. The reason is that I am a hobbyist and tinkerer, but not a professional web developer. My hosting account is paid for annually by the TAG (Talented and Gifted Program) at the local middle school, where I volunteer to teach the kids web design. My "payment" for that volunteer work is that the school pays for my hosting renewal every year. If you are interested, the school's website is http://opmstech.org. Everything you see there, the flash, the Standards compliant stuff, all of it was done by middle school students. Even the main page. 

Anyway all that is to say that if you wanted to just do the site at dreamhost for free right now, tell your client you are switching to dreamhost but you are not going to charge him/her for it. I will host your site for free for a year. 

BTW, dreamhost meets all the requirements mentioned in this thread. They update regularly, have good support, shell access (which I absolutely LOVE LOVE) and wordpress as a 1-click install. 

Let me know if you are interested. 
 
Scott Spearman
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On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Harold J. Johnson <[address removed]> wrote:
Not understanding your question/the intent of your question, Jason.
Consulting does not mean the client is going to accept every piece of
your counsel (even if that piece is a crucial one). In my case, the
client was one of my best friends -- which I'm fairly sure made it
easier for her to disregard my advice -- and stubbornly refused to
budge on her choice of hosting. Because of this I could only develop
her site so far. I ended up refusing any payment for my counsel.

--Harold

On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Jason <[address removed]> wrote:
> Why are you guys consulting clients and failing to actually [consult] them? How much systems administration knowledge does your client have? Are they a veteran of server security? Choosing a web host without council is a bad move. Choosing a web host against council doubly so.
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> Question #1 regarding a potential host: "Does the host regularly and consistently upgrade their daemons and remove known exploits?"
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> On Thursday, February 2, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Eric Lewis wrote:
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>> Why not move away from Brinkster? If they aren't keeping php up to date, what else are they not updating. Even if you could update WP, a host like that is eventually going to leave a hole open and get you hacked.
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>> As to permissions, see if they can run php through cgi. That seems to alleviate permission problems.
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>> Eric
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>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Jonathan Wright <[address removed] (mailto:[address removed])> wrote:
>> > Hi Web Developers,
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>> > I am trying to get Wordpress up and running on a client's server.
>> > My client's web host is Brinkster, which is a less than perfect host for Wordpress,
>> > but I won't delve into why I am stuck with them.
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>> > I have run through the Wordpress installation a dozen times, so I have no issues with WP per say. But Brinkster does not have a one-click install for Wordpress.
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>> > On my first install, my issues were file permissions and permalinks. Then WP asked me to update to WP 3.3.1. Then everything crashed : (
>> > Brinkster support recommended that if I ever update Wordpress, I'll need to do it manually. (sigh)
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>> > I then had Brinkster move my client from Windows / IIS 6 over to Linux / Apache 2. (Filezilla uses Linux and I like Filezilla, plus I get Apache's mod URL rewrite for permalinks )
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>> > To make a long story short, on my 4th or 5th run of manually installing WP, I received this message:
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>> > "Your server is running PHP version 5.2.3 but WordPress 3.3.1 requires at least 5.2.4"
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>> > When I asked Brinkster, they said "Well we do not have a Linux server with that PHP version, but we could move you to a Windows Server." Been there done that.
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>> > So finally, here are my 2 choices:
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>> > 1. Continue to enjoy the benefits of a Linux / Apache server, but run an older version of Wordpress (WP says earlier releases are less safe)
>> > 2. Or move to a Windows / IIS 6 server, and lose the benefit of Apache goodies like pretty permlinks, .htaccess files
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>> > Either way, I will probably have to update Wordpress manually every time a new version comes out.
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>> > Which option do you think I should go with, 1 or 2?
>> >
>> > Thanks for your input.
>> > Jonathan Wright
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