Monthly Meeting: Ethics of Belief Discussion

Many religions hold that it is "wrong" to believe or not believe certain things... based on faith. How about belief formation/ maintenance/ relinquishment based on evidence? Are all beliefs / belief systems created equal- are people inherently "entitled" to their beliefs?

We generally take a few minutes at the beginning of each monthly meeting to plan upcoming PVS community building efforts and events. The general discussions afterwards are intended to give members a chance to discuss a variety of relevant topics, current events, and explore new ideas. Often, topics are suggested in advance to get the conversation going, but the atmosphere is informal and friendly.

Paid parking is available behind and across from the library. The meters accept quarters. We usually meet downstairs, but are occasionally bumped into another room- check the whiteboard as you enter the library. 

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  • Rémy

    I've changed my name to Rémy... Just so you know. Meetup doesn't seem to allow a name change, so I may delete this one eventually and rejoin.

    1 · December 27, 2013

    • Shawn

      ok, keep us posted- look forward to meeting you if you come today!

      December 28, 2013

    • Rémy

      I had changed my photo, I don't know why it didn't post...Maybe it needs 24 hours to pass inspection so to speak...

      1 · December 28, 2013

  • Stacey

    I'm going to start out with my favorite truism: you are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts. I think that's where things break down. People tend to want to choose their own reality and ignore facts that contradict their opinions.

    3 · December 27, 2013

    • Brian

      Are facts useless without the opinions and conclusions that are drawn from them?
      Is it the weight and meaning that that we give to facts, our interpretation, the amount of other laws or theorems that facts are weighed against that, and how we use facts that determines their worth.

      December 28, 2013

    • Shawn

      The answer is clearly yes, with a side of no. Too bad you can't make it, see you next time Brian :-)

      December 28, 2013

  • Brian

    Still in Memphis

    1 · December 28, 2013

  • Donald S.

    Beliefs seem to be some kind of “personal truth” and a “personal representation” of the world. Since belief is the very motivational force for how one interacts in that world the disparate views of our beliefs as truth is obviously a deep friction. Since beliefs are held to be a “personal truth” then this it is all up for grabs because there is a real “fact” of the matter even if we don't know it yet. Truth and fact are what the World tells us it is not what we want or hold it to be. Only by allowing our “beliefs” to be challenged and pushing on one another can we find a common truth.

    4 · December 27, 2013

    • Donald S.

      Thank you Richard. I have much to learn from you. You're such a smartass.

      December 27, 2013

    • Richard D.

      We'll compare assIQ tomorrow :P :P

      2 · December 27, 2013

  • Stacey

    BTW I *know* that my beliefs are correct so you should all just be prepared for that! :-P

    December 27, 2013

  • Neal H.

    I am interested in listening to this talk, but I would also like to offer Dear God, my atheist gospel CD for sale. Not to push it, just to offer it.

    1 · December 27, 2013

    • Stacey

      Hi Neal, its not a talk but a discussion just FYI. We don't have an official policy on selling products but we meet in a public library that might have rules. I think it would be fine for you to mention you have the CDs but we shouldn't have anything 'set up' like at SANE. I don't know what you had in mind but I think you could certainly mention your CD and say that if people want one they can talk to you after the meeting.

      1 · December 27, 2013

  • Stacy B.

    I'm a maybey on this one... might be tight with holiday plans later...

    1 · December 10, 2013

  • Shawn

    Came across this relevent though somewhat silly conversation in Yahoo Answers: http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091103040618AA9bVxc

    And then skimmed this tome on the subject:

    http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/ethics-belief/

    1 · December 5, 2013

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