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Measles scare in Swansea

Claire
user 47390302
London, GB
Post #: 38
Anyone have more info about this outbreak? e.g. are the vaccinated getting measles too? Any deaths? etc.
Would love to have some more info to pass on to family members putting pressure to vaccinate because of this. Thanks!
Natalie C.
user 46219112
London, GB
Post #: 45
They are scaremongering because they want to achieve a 100% take up rate of the MMR vaccination. I was outraged when I watched a GP on BBC news last week saying that if you have had the vaccination you will not get measles. Nobody can guarantee that you will not contract the disease if you have had the vaccination. If you asked your GP to sign something to say that the MMR vaccination will guarantee not getting measles, they would never do it.
I googled after hearing this statement and found a mumsnet blog in 2008 with at least 5 mums saying that their child had been vaccinated and had contracted measles. You will hear that the immunised child had a 'lesser strain' but this is an excuse for the vaccine failing.

My 21 month old has not been vaccinated at all and I am 5 months pregnant, we are not rushing out to get the vaccination. My son or I could have the vaccination and still get the disease and as the MMR carries many risks and is quite toxic so, I would prefer not to be vaccinated if we would get the infection anyway.

The Arnica website has lots of information; http://www.arnica.org...­

The Informed Parent is also an excellent source of information and they have a bookshop too selling some brilliant titles including 'Comparing Natural Immunity with Vaccination' by Trevor Gunn. http://www.informedpa...­

Regards
Natalie
Rachel E.
Rachel_Elliston
London, GB
Post #: 92
See also http://www.informedpa...­ which will tell you what you need to know (I am currently researching it myself)
Natalie C.
user 46219112
London, GB
Post #: 46
Thanks Rachel, I had forgotten to put the link in to the Informed Parent's website.

Claire
user 47390302
London, GB
Post #: 41
Thanks. I agree with all you say and will look at those websites. I just hate feeling the pressure to vaccinate. I hate confrontation and am not good at defending my beliefs if I have to. I was hoping that there would be some proof that even people not aware of vaccine dangers would be able to understand and realise that vaccination is not the answer for this outbreak. eg large percentage of those with measles actually were vaccinated....Perhaps we'll never know.
Claire
user 47390302
London, GB
Post #: 42
I just discovered there is a live webchat about this topic today at 2pm with Professor David Salisbury, the government's director of immunisation.
http://www.mumsnet.co...­
Claire
user 47390302
London, GB
Post #: 44
I just found this which has useful inormation regarding measles and the MMR:
http://www.whale.to/v...­
Claire
user 47390302
London, GB
Post #: 46
My main concern is with babies (apparently more dangerous for very young babies to get measles). Since I was vaccinated I assume I cannot pass on natural immunity via breastmilk to my baby. Or can I still pass on immunity?
Philip R.
Phil_Ridley
Group Organizer
London, GB
Post #: 1,659
Try these books for alternatives to vaccination:

The Prepared Family Guide to Uncommon Diseases By Enola Gay - Weston A Price Foundation
www.westonaprice.org
John Moody reviews The Prepared Family Guide to Uncommon Diseases and gives it a thumbs up.
http://www.westonapri...­

The Solution: Homeoprophylaxis By Kate Birch and Cilla Whatcott - Weston A Price Foundation
www.westonaprice.org
Joette Calabrese reviews The Solution: Homeoprophylaxis: The Vaccine Alternative and gives it a thumbs up.
http://www.westonapri...­

This video about vaccines got a Thumbs up by WAPF also:

A former member
Post #: 356
Claire,

If your vaccination was in childhood you will not still have antibodies, so you would not pass immunity to your baby. Not even sure that matters. People who have been vaccinated and contracted measles and other diseases in the past have tested with high anti bodies and can still get the disease. It's bunch of phooey in my opinion. And even if you had antibodies from the vaccine, the manufacturers state that the baby would still need to be vaccinated. Don't think that counts as passive immunity. Now, if you've contracted chicken pox or measles or mumps naturally in your lifetime you will still have real immunity and would pass that along to your baby even while breast-feeding. I think even if you didn't breast feed that baby would keep those antibodies for up to a year or so.
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