Going for a trail run and a wee bit of a hike/exploration. Will head out south from the parking lot and then head west up into oak creek area. Will end up going through some bushes and vines until we find water, then back out a bit and continue following oak creek until we get back to trail to return us to cars. 4 to 5 miles. Usually about an hour and a half. Bring water to drink for the run. Critters may be out and about, bugs,lizards,snakes,birds,bees, etc. just an FYI. Hope to see you there.