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RE: RE: [atheists-93] MORALITY? of atheists

From: user 8.
Sent on: Thursday, April 16, 2009 4:08 PM

I think the average atheist have more of an emotional conscience awareness than the average theist enabling the average atheist to distinguish the irrationality of emotions in decision making processes compared to theist, does that make any sense?



From: [address removed] on behalf of UU princess
Sent: Sat 4/11/2009 9:58 PM
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: RE: [atheists-93] MORALITY? of atheists

Hmmm. I believe Atheists do strive to think more rationally, but as humans we most likely have emotional responses underlying our decisions as much as anyone else.
 
I doubt I'd turn to Rand for morals and ethics, but I'll take a look a the piece you mention.
 

--- On Sat, 4/11/09, bobbler <[address removed]> wrote:

From: bobbler <[address removed]>
Subject: Re: RE: [atheists-93] MORALITY? of atheists
To: [address removed]
Date: Saturday, April 11, 2009, 3:09 PM

The response closest to mine:

< Jon, Re: ethics--Atheists use logic and reasoning to make ethical decisions rationally.  

> (A religious person uses emotion to make ethical decisions based on personal interpretation of a diety's fiat.)  

> We do "make it up," but not in the same way a religious person makes it up.  You might begin with Ayn Rand's Philosophy: Who Needs It? for some reading.  

> I agree we ought to meet and give our money to a business rationally run.


If it were not for religious groups presuming they are the very definition of morality, we would not even be having this discussion..  Ironically, these same Xians who brought to the would the holy wars, the pogroms, the Spanish Inquisition, and hitler (caused more suffering and death than anything else in human history), now claim the moral high ground..  [DISCLAIMER]: Many/most xians do good in spite of what the bible teaches, but as with the muslim world, the nut jobs seem to rise in power, and do the dirty deeds, and the good xians do not do anything about it..  Here in America the latest incarnation of what xians call morality is blowing up gay bars, the Oklahoma govt. building, and shooting abortion doctors..  Also ironically, all the killing above (spanning thousands of years to present), is in direct defiance of their 10 commandments; "thou shalt not kill."  Truly nuts are in charge here..   Xian morality changes with the wind (or the religious nut proclaiming a direct pipeline to god; who claims to know how to decode the morality they believe to be in their bible).   Today it seems xian morality is stuck not on "killing" heretics by the thousands, but on gay marriage, taking over the American govt to claim this land for Jesus, and keeping women the property of men (seems everything but stealing and killing).. In summary I much prefer atheist morality, where we can make rational decisions..  The humanists have something like a moral code, google the humanist manifesto (make sure you find the real humanist one, and not xian distortions).. 


bobbler





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