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Let's See the Film "Spirituality: Cosmic Origins" (FREE) *No Host*

Come celebrate the annual "National Day of Reason" with us!

(NO-HOST EVENT. Due to my involvement with the OCFA Conference Friday night, I will not be attending this film. Please coordinate with other attendees if you wish to carpool or sit together.)

The Sisters of St. Joseph in Orange host a free movie night on the first Friday of each month. On May 3rd it'll be "Spirituality: Cosmic Origins." From their website:

50 Minutes, 2012
"There is extensive evidence from physics for a beginning and
fine-tuning of the universe. When the complementary nature
of these insights is seen, it provides compelling evidence for a
transcendent, intelligent Creator. Cosmic Origins features eight
world-class physicists taking about modern physics and God,
including Nobel Laureate Arno Penzias, Templeton Prize winners
John Polking-horne and Michael Heller, Owen Gingerich , Lisa
Randall and Jennifer Wiseman."

6:30-7:00 Gathering & Refreshments
7:00-9:00 Film & Discussion

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  • Sharon E.

    I want to say thank you to Michael for your response to my question of April 8th. I agree that looking at the 'other side' helps us understand where they're coming from. We (IEAA) were invited to a debate at a Temecula church last year. Though was somewhat futile, in that it turned out that each side felt they had 'won' the debate, I found it very enlightening anyway. The reason is that I had not been in a church in many years, and I was astonished at the 'rock concert' atmosphere there! I also wanted to apologize to Paul, if I offended you by my question. I really didn't intend it that way.

    Turns out I wasn't able to attend. But, I SURE enjoyed every bit of the OCFA on Saturday!! Every speaker was fantastic, and I had such a great time talking with so many attendees at my table, at lunch, and at dinner. BIG kudos to Bruce and the others who do all the work of setting this up every year!!

    1 · May 6, 2013

    • Michael Steven M.

      Thanks for your kind words, Sharon. Hope to see you at an event soon!

      May 7, 2013

  • Cary C.

    Not a single atheist showed up, and fortunately so. This was not beneficial for skeptics, much less atheists. The movie itself offered nothing we haven't seen before: the astronomical odds against existence, much less life, happening - an argument that can be dismissed by anything existing within the astronomical improbability of its own existence.

    This was an evening designed by nice old ladies for other nice old ladies. The supposed discussion at the end was not a discussion. Pre-established softball questions were read out by the moderator. And answers to those questions were all that was invited. No questions or comments from the floor were invited. One guy bucked the rules and made an uninvited comment anyway, but quickly segwayed into a faith affirming conclusion. This was a choir preaching to itself.

    Seriously, if you want a decent discussion with theists, go to Don Stoner's meetings on 1st (and possibly 3rd) Wednesdays in Signal Hill.

    2 · May 3, 2013

    • Michael Steven M.

      Cary - I'm sorry the turnout for the movie was low, but it sounds like the film missed the mark all together. Thank you for your summing up of the evening, it was an interesting read. Hope to see you soon! -Michael

      2 · May 6, 2013

  • Michael Steven M.

    I am involved with the OCFA Conference that night.

    1 · April 22, 2013

  • Sharon E.

    I'm confused. This film and venue seem contrary to the logic and rationality that free thinkers tend to employ. Would the purpose of attending to try to understand the perspective from their point of view? Thanks for reading and offering me insights :).

    1 · April 8, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      One should never have to ask the question of 'why should we try to understand the perspectives of others?' The answer is self-evident: in understanding how others think, even those whose thinking is irrational and illogical, you come to understand those people better, and in so doing expand your own knowledge and demystify them. By understanding their viewpoints you learn how best to counter them.

      ...besides, in my case at least, I'm attending because I'll find their viewpoints hilarious. Who said anything about ACCEPTING this crap?

      April 9, 2013

    • Michael Steven M.

      Hello Sharon! Thanks for checking out this Meetup and for asking. Sometimes our group likes to step outside its box and "see what the others are up to." (Some of us recently attended a Sunday morning lecture series at a church because the topic sounded interesting.) B.Y.S. member Lisa P. introduced me to this Friday night film series, and we've attended a couple of times. It's a great opportunity for us to meet with group members, as well as talk with some people outside our group, hopefully leaving them with a better impression than before they met us. We never shy away from diversity or contradictory points of view, and Meetups like this one are a great chance for investigating what information the religious community is absorbing, as well as socializing with one another. We hope to see you there!

      2 · April 9, 2013

  • Michael Steven M.

    The lovely Miss Lisa P. will be my +1.

    April 9, 2013

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