Norm - unfortunately it's not as symmetrical as that. Religious beliefs engender atrocious acts of violence. In general, Agnosticism and Atheism do not. When was the last time you turned on the news and read "Yesterday, another suicide scientist blew himself up, killing dozens of others..."?

> The point is that Seperation of Church and State protects their religious
> liberty just as much as it protects ours.
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> So you want to tell a god believer that a gods don't exist. What a waste
> of time. Of course, if you want to convince them of anything else, such
> as; the separation of church and state, you should remember that the same
> leap of faith that allowed them to be brainwashed about the special friend
> in the sky is the same leap of faith that will not allow you to convince
> them of anything that threatens their fantasy. People have beliefs for a
> reason. You can't use reasoning to remove a person's belief. Over time,
> your only chance is to present reality to them when reality presents
> itself in a indisputable way and even then some of the fanatics will still
> refuse to see what is right in front of them.
> If you want to drive the believers further away....continue to try to
> reason with them.
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> I agree with Claire that challenging believers head-on is
> counterproductive. Witness "Religilous" though: Bill Maher is terrific
> in the way he confronts e.g. the truckers, appealing to logic. You may
> not change their minds wholesale, but you can make someone think -- if
> presented in a nonattacking way.
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