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RE: [atheists-55] Re: Tyranny of the atheist minority

From: Steve Z.
Sent on: Friday, May 16, 2008 2:45 PM

So I called the 888 number. The first time I got what appeared to be a woman's voice and she 
gave a number that I couldn't make out.  On the second try it was a evidently Federer himself.
He gave one of the posted numbers to contact him.  

This does imply that the number is associated with his business/work. 

However, I would just like to clarify my initial concerns.

I do not believe personal/private information should be posted without permission.

I would also ask that we refrain from waging a harassment campaign against anyone,
no matter how inane and insulting their views and statements.

I'm not saying this was Jeff's intent, but it is the implication I got on first seeing the number.

I believe we should respond in ways that do not cause us to look the same or worse than those we
are against.

Thanks,

Steve Z.


The difference between genius and stupidity, is genius has its limits.-- Albert Einstein.

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> From: [address removed]
> To: [address removed]
> Subject: Re: [atheists-55] Re: Tyranny of the atheist minority
> Date: Fri, 16 May[masked]:19:50 -0400
> 
> He was brilliant enough to list those numbers at the end of the voice-mail answering maching when you call that phone # 1-888-USA-WORD.
> 
> On 5/16/08, Steve Z. <[address removed]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Do you mean the American Minute and Amerisearch sites?
> 
> Those came up when I searched
> 
> Where did you find those numbers on those pages? or am I looking at the wrong sites?
> Not denying they are there, just want to see for myself.
> 
> Also, if they are there, it would imply that those numbers are associated with his work and
> not personal numbers.  As I said, I'm against personal (perhaps I should be saying 'private')
> information being posted.
> 
> Steve Z.
> 
> 
> The difference between genius and stupidity, is genius has its limits.-- Albert Einstein.
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>> From: [address removed]
>> To: [address removed]
>> Subject: Re: [atheists-55] Re: Tyranny of the atheist minority
>> Date: Fri, 16 May[masked]:03:45 -0700
>>
>> These are numbers I got off of his 1-888- USA - Word...so therefore public consumption.
>>
>> On 5/16/08, Steve Z. <[address removed]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> And this was my response to Jeff's Response.
>>
>>>However,­ by posting it you are tacitly telling people to harass this guy.  This makes us appear
>>>just as belligerent and asinine as him.
>>
>>>If the numbers you posted are his office and work phones, then you may have a point.
>>
>>>But you said that one was his personal number.  He has just as much right to not be
>>>harassed­ at home as you and I.  There must be other more reasonable and, in my opinion,
>>>mature ways to respond to that ridiculous article.
>>
>>>I don't want people's personal information posted without their permission.
>>
>>>Steve Z.
>>
>>
>> The difference between genius and stupidity, is genius has its limits.-- Albert Einstein.
>>
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>>> From: [address removed]
>>> To: [address removed]
>>> Subject: [atheists-55] Re: Tyranny of the atheist minority
>>> Date: Fri, 16 May[masked]:47:57 -0700
>>>
>>> It was just recently brought to my attention that posting phone #'s may be crossing the line.
>>>
>>> Well as I answered that person, so will I now answer anyone else who thinks that it's crossing the line...
>>>
>>> I humbly disagree...I think it pales in comparison to that OVER the TOP news article.
>>>
>>> Either we stand up for who we are, and confront Bigots like these, (not every bigot mind you, but I think this guy just made a great case for himself) b/c I think IT IS prudent to pick & choose your battles.  Wether this person is sane or not, he has it posted on a national news site, and he is the head of a national organization.
>>>
>>> As yoda said to Luke Skywalker..."Don't underestimate the powers of the dark side"
>>>
>>> Especially in this case, were the article is nothing less than a haineous attack on atheist everywhere.
>>>
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>>  We don't confront the Bigots and continue to bitch and complain about being "persecuted minority" umongst ourselves...which got tired like 7 years ago.
>>>
>>> [http://www.cartoo...­]
>>>
>>> Quoting the late Saul Alinsky, who was renowned for his community organizing skills, Rudin noted that it only takes 2% of society to make change if it is a well-organized, fully committed cadre. "The other 98% is pretty inert."
>>>
>>>
>>>
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