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Re: [webdesign-396] New Event: Plan our website Stage 3

From: Joe F.
Sent on: Monday, October 29, 2007 2:58 PM
I agree with what's been said so far and have a bit to add.

With our rather large goal of being the "go to" web standards body in Cleveland, we would be shooting ourselves in the foot by deprecating the very city we are trying to help.  On one side I think the slogan is awesome and hilarious; unfortunately, I think it would be viewed very negatively by the Cleveland advocacy groups, whose help we may someday need in promoting ourselves to tech businesses looking at moving/starting up in Cleveland.  While we can and should maintain a certain level of humor, we can view this as a great (and, luckily, easy) learning experience to always keep in mind the end goals of the group when making public facing decisions.

Okay, done with the seriousness.  Let's go make Cleveland suck less!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Dielman" <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Monday, October 29,[masked]:27:56 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
Subject: Re: [webdesign-396] New Event: Plan our website Stage 3

Hi Everyone.

I have to agree with Alexis on this one. Between ourselves, joking
around about Cleveland is one thing, but to make it a theme of our
Association site is another thing completely.

As an association that wants to help promote web standards and best
practices for web design and development in our area, potentially
alienating those we want to attract (business in need of good
standards based sites, designers and developers in the area who are
looking to learn) isn't a good way to go about it.

That being said, I thought "CWSA, Making Cleveland suck less, one
website at a time." was hilarious. For our site though, something a
bit less controversial.

Just my two cents.

On 10/29/07, Alexis <[address removed]> wrote:
> It was really nice to meet everyone. I was really impressed by the group and
> enjoyed the last meeting a lot.  I look forward to what's to come.
> I will have at least 1 logo design and 1 splash page design if not before
> then at the next meeting.
> I cop to initiating the cleveland deprecation movement but i have to ask
> that we discuss the issue further before making something like: "CWSA,
> Making Cleveland suck less, one website at a time." the designated theme or
> mission statement. While it was funny as a one-line joke, from a marketing
> perspective, it's not a wise positioning for the group or for the city. Like
> why dig a hole for yourself to climb out of?  Who said Cleveland sucks to
> begin with? and it's very inferiority complex-y and there's no wit to it
> that may add value.  And anyhow, why does everything remotely attached to
> Cleveland have to be an argument for and justification of the city? Why
> weigh down the mission and image of the group with something so irrelevant
> and subjective? we can be lighthearted and fun, but c'mon it's not like we
> live in Chernobyl.
> I feel very strongly about Clevelanders being the worst ambassadors of
> Cleveland.  So I may be making an issue out of a non-issue, but I feel like
> I should defend the reputation of Cleveland and erase negative
> representations of the city, one clevelander at a time. I hope you
> understand =)
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