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Re: [webdesign-396] PHP Mysql Classes/Study Group Schedule

From: Ronald F.
Sent on: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:57 AM
Well, the I learned this I help you learn it and you learned that you help me learn that was the basis of PC user  group philosophy at the beginning, we all learn from each other.
who knows i may even know some things you don't about who knows what that you may want to know....it's possible.
so yes i firmly believe in the we help each other learn approach. that has always been my feeling about the down side of solitary learning and the advantage of group class environments. Ask any reviewer of music how easy it is to tell if the person created their music alone or in a group collaboratively. very easy to tell. It will almost always be richer coming from many minds than one.
Thanks again, and I appreciate you being willing to do this and to being open to the many teaches approach instead of ego approach.
thanks again
Ron

--- On Mon, 10/12/09, Aoirthoir An Broc <[address removed]> wrote:

From: Aoirthoir An Broc <[address removed]>
Subject: Re: [webdesign-396] PHP Mysql Classes/Study Group Schedule
To: [address removed]
Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 12:53 AM

Ron,

Yeah I am with you.  I am also willing to help someone catch up outside of class time. So for instance if someone could not make it to the first class on Saturday but they wanted my help that Monday right after so they could come to the next Saturday class, I'd be totally fine with meeting with them. The only thing I am trying to avoid is having someone show up at the 5th class and asking basic questions like "what is a php file?" :D We had that happen a lot when we were running the HTML study group, so that effectively every week for weeks on end we were starting all over.

But also if we want to stagger these things, so that say I teach a handful of folks and then they pass that on to the next group that's fine. Then we could move the original folks on to the next stage. Spreading it around that way will make it easier for sure.

Also thanks for the offer, it's muchly appreciated and thanks in advance for any help you offer others.

Kind Regards,
Aoirthoir

--- On Sun, 10/11/09, Ronald Finnerty <[address removed]> wrote:

From: Ronald Finnerty <[address removed]>
Subject: Re: [webdesign-396] PHP Mysql Classes/Study Group Schedule
To: [address removed]
Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 10:59 PM

Aoirthor,
I would be willing to try to help out if anyone needs to miss the first class or two...i think this stuff should be fundemental enough for  even my stupid butt to be able to help with.
 Of course it is your class and your decision, if the class stuff will be online maybe if the person missing the meet time on sat they could catch up/keep up with emails to anyone else in your class....it is this help i am offering.
just a possibility.
thanks for doing this class btw.
 Ron

--- On Sun, 10/11/09, Anand <[address removed]> wrote:

From: Anand <[address removed]>
Subject: Re: [webdesign-396] PHP Mysql Classes/Study Group Schedule
To: [address removed]
Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 10:32 PM

Hi, I didn't realize that this class was starting in November.  I am gone out of town from Oct 30th - Nov 15th.  If you have a number of people who can't make the first day, maybe you can have two days for the first class (one in October)?  I would be happy to pay for your time.

Otherwise, I will try to catch up before the third session using w3 schools.

Anand





--- On Sat, 10/10/09, Aoirthoir An Broc <[address removed]> wrote:

From: Aoirthoir An Broc <[address removed]>
Subject: [webdesign-396] PHP Mysql Classes/Study Group Schedule
To: [address removed]
Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 7:31 PM

Greetings All!

Today we had an excellent meet and greet. We went ahead and settled on the PHP/MySQL Class Schedule. More details will follow early next week, and the meetings will be scheduled on the calendar at that time. The basic details are now that there will be 6 weeks of classes. The dates are:

November 7th at 11:00am.
November 14th at 11:00am.
November 21st at 11:00am.
November 28th will be skipped for the Thanksgiving Holiday.

December 5th at 11:00AM.
December 12th at 11:00AM.
December 19th at 11:00AM.
December 26th will be skipped for the Christmas Holiday.

By the end of the 19th's class we will have decided on whether to schedule another round of Basic Intro or to move on to a next level. The location will be announced early next week

Since this is a Basic Intro to PHP and MySQL there are some pre-requisites. You MUST know how to use a computer, how to turn it on, how to use a graphical user interface, how to use a text editor or a basic word processor. You don't have to be an expert in any of these. You must also understand the basics of HTML. That is you should know who to create an HTML document, HTML tags with their attributes. You don't have to be an expert designer, or know killer HTML or standards, or any such thing.

Also, while missed classes are understandable, too many would require a participant to sit the balance of the sessions out and join us the next time. I'm gladly willing to catch someone up to a missed class. But it's too much of a set back to have someone come into the class at the 4th week, with no experience at all in PHP or MySQL as we would spend too much time trying to explain the basics again, which the other students would already have gone over.

Now as to the books. For this Basic Intro, I've decided to skip the books. We'll see how it goes and then add books next time round if needed. In the meantime I will be pointing everyone to online resources that will need to have been studied *prior* to each day's lesson. So everyone will read the lesson, and then join us on Saturday Mornings to discuss, experiment and so on. If you would like to see an example of this methodology, go to http://cobol.meetup.com/1/calendar .

If anyone has any questions please feel free to contact me via the list, personal email, and phone at[masked]-7214.

Many Kind Regards,
Aoirthoir




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