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Spelunking trip clarification

From: Stan H
Sent on: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 12:16 AM


I have a couple of comments regarding this meetup that should be clarified. 

Despite what the meetup details suggest, I did not collaborate on this particular meetup.  The details for this trip were obviously copied from my previous caving meetups, but I want to make it clear that this is not the same trip as my meetups. 

This spelunking meetup is for one cave that takes about 30minutes to explore.  Empire cave is pretty well known, has a great deal of graffiti outside and inside, has three large rooms with a couple of small side tunnels, is pretty dry this time of year and it's not really possible to get lost in it so it is reasonably safe for anybody without previous knowledge of the cave. 

My caving meetups include up to 4 caves (Empire Cave, 2 other smaller caves and 1 intricate main cave with many side tunnels) and are guided by over 25yrs worth of experience over 75+trips.  The main cave requires some experience to navigate safely and to find your way back out.

Anybody who has gone on one of my caving meetups will agree that you will be pretty disappointed to drive 1.5hrs one way just for a 30minute adventure.  Empire Cave is just a warmup cave to the larger more adventurous cave and not much of an adventure by itself (it's mostly used by college students to party in, I know, I went to Porter College at UCSC - the cave is also known as Porter Cave).

I’m not trying to discourage anybody from going, but I suggest finding something else to do while you are in town to make the trip worthwhile.  Disc golf up by Delaveaga Golf Course could be a good possibility.  Or maybe even a hike across UCSC campus through the redwoods. 

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